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Dorico 5 and VSL Expression Maps
Last post Wed, Jun 07 2023 by andi, 15 replies.
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Posted on Wed, May 24 2023 17:15
by profAmici
Joined on Tue, Oct 08 2019, Posts 13

Hi!

I just installed Dorico 5 and all the VSL expression maps disappeared; I tried to download and reinstall them but no results.

Any solution?

Andrea
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Posted on Wed, May 24 2023 18:39
by Major
Joined on Fri, Apr 06 2007, Ludwigsburg, Germany, Posts 19

I had the exact same Problem. What I did was to export an existing expression map to the "defaultLibraryAdditions" folder. Then they all appeared... lucky accident 
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Posted on Thu, May 25 2023 05:04
by cybergolio
Joined on Wed, Sep 03 2008, Besancon FRANCE, Posts 12

Originally Posted by: Major Go to Quoted Post

I had the exact same Problem. What I did was to export an existing expression map to the "defaultLibraryAdditions" folder. Then they all appeared... lucky accident 

thanks Major, what is the way to do this please ?

it is a folder to copy ?

thank you
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Posted on Thu, May 25 2023 05:16
by cybergolio
Joined on Wed, Sep 03 2008, Besancon FRANCE, Posts 12

Originally Posted by: cybergolio Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: Major Go to Quoted Post

I had the exact same Problem. What I did was to export an existing expression map to the "defaultLibraryAdditions" folder. Then they all appeared... lucky accident 

thanks Major, what is the way to do this please ?

it is a folder to copy ?

thank you

found it 

copy defaultLibraryAdditions from

Hd/user/yourname/library/applicationsupport/steinberg/dorico 4

to

Hd/user/yourname/library/applicationsupport/steinberg/dorico 5 folder 

 

it works :)
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Posted on Thu, May 25 2023 16:47
by profAmici
Joined on Tue, Oct 08 2019, Posts 13

Excellent! Thanks!
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Posted on Fri, May 26 2023 09:35
by Andreas8420
Joined on Mon, Dec 02 2019, Vienna, Posts 344

Hi all,

We will have to update the "VSL for Dorico" installer. As reported by users, the "DefaultLibraryAdditions" folder is not automatically copied over when installing Dorico 5.

macOS: Macintosh HD > Users > *YourUserName* > Library > Application Support > Steinberg > Dorico 4 > Default Library Additions
Win: System (C:) > Users > *YourUserName* > Roaming > Steinberg > Dorico 4 > PlaybackTemplateSpecs

Copy that folder into the path for Dorico 5 manually.

Careful: The User Library folder & Appdata folder are hidden by default.

Best regards,
Andreas

Technical Support - Vienna Symphonic Library
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Posted on Sun, Jun 04 2023 08:57
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3709

Hello!

The latest version of the VSL for Dorico Installer now also installs our Expression Maps and Playback Templates to the Dorico 5 folder. It's available in the Vienna Assistant under Additionals/Notation.

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
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Posted on Mon, Jun 05 2023 06:47
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2900

Hello Andi

Thank you very much.

Are all VI Expression Maps also installed in Dorico 5 ?

Can you use MIR PRO 3D with Dorico ?

Best Regards

Cyril

 

Originally Posted by: andi Go to Quoted Post

Hello!

The latest version of the VSL for Dorico Installer now also installs our Expression Maps and Playback Templates to the Dorico 5 folder. It's available in the Vienna Assistant under Additionals/Notation.

Best regards,
Andi

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Posted on Mon, Jun 05 2023 07:54
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3709

Hello Cyril!

We have made Dorico expression maps for many of our Synchron and SYNCHRON-ized libraries, but not for our VI libraries. Symphonic Riot offers Dorico expression maps for our VI libraries though.

MIR Pro 3D can be used with Dorico.

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
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Posted on Mon, Jun 05 2023 13:28
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2900

Hello Andy

I am disappointed of your answer.

You have to pay 150€ for Symphonic Riot 

It is not fare for your clients that has spend over 10 000 $ buy your VI libs

I thought you could use Cubase Expression Maps you made ! can't you include them in the installation for Dorico 5

You did not answer about MIR PRO 3D

Best Regards

Cyril

Originally Posted by: andi Go to Quoted Post

Hello Cyril!

We have made Dorico expression maps for many of our Synchron and SYNCHRON-ized libraries, but not for our VI libraries. Symphonic Riot offers Dorico expression maps for our VI libraries though.

MIR Pro 3D can be used with Dorico.

Best regards,
Andi

MacBook Pro 2019 16" 64gb 4TB + 2 x Odisseey G9 49"
MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 + S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO 3D, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind, Brass, Percussion Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs, Many Sychron Instruments

Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 3, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa, Kinetic libs, EW libs

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Posted on Tue, Jun 06 2023 08:23
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3709

Hello Cyril!

Our Vienna Instruments collections have been made long before Dorico existed. Please understand that we will not create Dorico expression maps for these libraries - especially when another company has already done that.

I did answer your question about MIR Pro 3D.

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
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Posted on Tue, Jun 06 2023 09:53
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2900

Originally Posted by: andi Go to Quoted Post

Hello Cyril!

Our Vienna Instruments collections have been made long before Dorico existed. Please understand that we will not create Dorico expression maps for these libraries - especially when another company has already done that.

I did answer your question about MIR Pro 3D.

Best regards,
Andi

Hello Andi,

Sorry for MIR PRO !

Can you use you Cubase expression Maps in Dorico ?

I have bought quite a lot of Synchro instrument and tried to do a mix using Mir using the 99.. I return to the VI instrument.

I think you have fool MirPro users not saying to them that they did not need to get Synchron instrument if you use MIR PRO

Best Regards

Cyril

MacBook Pro 2019 16" 64gb 4TB + 2 x Odisseey G9 49"
MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 + S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO 3D, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind, Brass, Percussion Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs, Many Sychron Instruments

Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 3, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa, Kinetic libs, EW libs

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Posted on Wed, Jun 07 2023 06:23
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3709

Hello Cyril!

It is possible to convert Cubase expression maps with Dorico, but they don't work 1:1.

We don't fool anyone. That's not our policy. 

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
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Posted on Wed, Jun 07 2023 06:35
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2900

Hello

Did you ever send me a mail saying ?

"As an owner of all the VI you own and MIR PRO, you do not need to buy the Synchron series"

I remember seeing post saying that you could use VSL for Cubase Expression Maps in Dorico

Best

Cyril

MacBook Pro 2019 16" 64gb 4TB + 2 x Odisseey G9 49"
MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 + S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO 3D, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind, Brass, Percussion Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs, Many Sychron Instruments

Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 3, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa, Kinetic libs, EW libs

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Camera full HD
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Posted on Wed, Jun 07 2023 12:13
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3709

Hello Cyril!

I have never seen any company writing to their customers that they don't need a specific product. Apart from that, upgrades from Vienna Instruments to SYNCHRON-ized libraries are really inexpensive and you get the library content in a powerful modern player. So these upgrades are useful for users with MIR Pro (3D) too. Furthermore we offer Dorico expression maps for lots of our SYNCHRON-ized libraries. There you have another benefit.

Your quote about Cubase expression maps is not from us. We have never said that. I will close this thread now, because your series of allegations doesn't lead anywhere and has nothing to do with the topic.

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
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