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  • Vienna Instruments Guitars?

    Hi at all, I'm very happy about the playability of the guitars in Vi SE. A few time ago I tried the overdrive guitar with gigastudio and performance tool and...well...it was not as nice as i expect it.

    The VI interface is great, so is there a plan to offer a VI guitars collection?

  • VSL has been so uproariously successful with their acoustic instrument sampling projects, I really wonder if distorted guitar is an area where they should be spending a lot of time. A VI of their classical guitar would be nice, though.

    With the profusion of amp model and efx plug-ins that are available on the market, I think it's been established that an already distorted guitar sample library is just not the way to go these days. If you start out with clean electric guitar samples (essentially what comes out of the guitar output jack) and run them through models, you'll get a 100% more convincing result.

    If VSL wanted to do a clean electric guitar VI, it would be a worthy project. I just don't know if the world needs the original over-drive guitar library in VI form (I know I don't).

    There's a lot of competition in the sampled guitar area these days, which might be another reason why VSL would want to focus on their real strengths. There are some HUGE sampled electric guitar libraries out on the market (like the 60 GB LPC).

    Personally, I've bought most of these other products. They are impressive, but not a lot of fun to use. Guitar is just one of those instruments where the actual set up of the instrument is so important to the conception of what you play.

    To get really convincing guitar parts with the huge libraries is a real PITA. In the long run (and even in the short run), I think it makes sense to learn how to play guitar, and use the samples only for things that are technically above your head. That's what I decided to do about two years ago, and it was one of the better decisions I've made. If you've got good keyboard chops, a knowledge of theory, and improvisational skills, you should be able to pick up guitar quite rapidly. Once you're underway, even the thought of using electric guitar samples will seem more and more lame.

    The sooner you get started, the sooner you'll be shredding. [:D]

  • I know what you're saying regarding learning the guitar Lee. I did exactly the same thing and, though I am still a really very poor guitarist, I've managed to get away with an awful lot. [:D]

    Even recording two notes at a time is quicker and more realistic than programming reasonably convincing electric guitar parts and LPC consistently crashes my version of Kontakt 2 in Logic anyway! [6]

    I'm now learning Alto Sax (and can play all the others with the help of Melodyne [:D] ) and recorded my first big band number only last week.

    There's a lot to be said for keeping it real - can I say that here? - but you'll never catch me learning strings or French Horn and for that VSL is the business! [:)]

  • Having done all the work recording and programming the overdrive and concert guitar libraries, I'd be surprised if VSL didn't issue them as VI's. I think the fact that both are featured in the SE is a pointer to that.

    Lee, I agree with you about how programming rock guitar parts isn't a lot of fun and I know what you mean about the usefulness of clean samples - the amp modellers and FX plug-ins out there are amazingly good. However, I think a lot of keyboard players and non-guitarists will appreciate having a good quality sampled distorted guitar available, especially one that can play legato lines. I always prefer to use a real player, but the samples are very useful for demoing the parts.