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Last post Sat, May 15 2004 by Tomkovsky, 10 replies.
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Posted on Sat, Apr 24 2004 23:04
by mvanbebber
Joined on Fri, Apr 16 2004, US, Posts 193
I just bought a new computer to run VSL and Gigastudio. The new computer is being built from new pieces, and I bought (2) 160GB SATA 7200RPM drives. Should I install them in a RAID 0 (striped) configuration, or as two separate drives?
The reason I ask is because I read that it is wise to keep all samples and audio on a separate drive from the OS. Would a separate drive partition work? Any other ideas?
thanks in advance,
Mike
Posted on Sun, Apr 25 2004 08:31
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9146
mike, this are the only two drives on this computer i'd assume ...
if you can't get OS and programs to a seperate drive i think the best solution would be a 20-30 GB (primary!) partition for windows and gigastudio and a second (primary!) partition for less frequently used samples on disk1. another primary partition on disk2, all partitions for samples (or other audio) formatted with a cluster size of 4096.
such a splitting would avoid fragmentation for audio files on the drive where your OS is sitting.

a bootable raid-0 with a 30 GB system partition could be also interesting but depends on your raid controller and i've not tested performance for such a configuration so far.
christian
and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Thu, Apr 29 2004 15:04
by mvanbebber
Joined on Fri, Apr 16 2004, US, Posts 193
Thanks for the help!
I formatted the two SATA 160GB drives in RAID 0 (bootable RAID, stripe configuration) with a 30GB OS/application partition and 280GB sample partition. How can I test the performance of the system? Will the computer treat it as one drive?
Has anyone tried this setup before?
thanks,
Mike
Posted on Thu, Apr 29 2004 22:46
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9146
mike, the computer will treat is as one drive with two partitions. after you have loaded everything (started up windows and gigastudio) there should be not much access to the first partition (i'd assume you have 2 GB RAM and virtual memory disabled) - so all the motion will happen on your second partition and you should get something like 20 - 28 MB/s data throughput for random access (more than you can ever handle with gigastudio)
just set up a huge performance filling up all voices gigastudio can give you and listen for pops and clicks - i'm pretty sure you will not encounter any
christian
and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Tue, May 11 2004 23:11
by laughingbear
Joined on Fri, Oct 03 2003, On the beach-Eire, Posts 80
Hi Mike,

just a few numbers and hints.... I use AIDA32 enterprise edition to do such benchmarking thingies and system analysings....

As for througput.... I think you can never have enough, but I am doing also adobe stuff besides pure music, so film and audio comes together.

I am not so sure about Christian random access figures...

I use somewhat faster SATA harddrives from western digital so called Raptors.

To give you an idea about thier performance, configured without RAID O, hence JBOD, I have measured a single raptor with 61.8 MB/s random read, linear read 61.7 MB/sand buffered read 109.6 MB/s . In raid-0 the random went up to flippin 98.9MB/s.

All above were averages, not maximums! If you are working with higher Khz and bitrates, a better throughout will help big times IMO.
thx
rgds
~^..^~
Bear
Posted on Wed, May 12 2004 00:12
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9146
laughingbear, how did you run this test - with EZSCSI? if yes, which filesize? please note streaming applications like gigastudio don't access *complete files* but tiny peaces (64k or possibly even less). what makes me wonder is that there is no difference between random and sustained reads
christian
and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Wed, May 12 2004 18:26
by laughingbear
Joined on Fri, Oct 03 2003, On the beach-Eire, Posts 80
Hi Christian

I use aida32 enterprsie edition for those tests.

yeah, I heard about that GS thingy. I suppose it would make sense for Mike to think about a propper clustersize for his GS drive to avaoid bigger slacks. depending on his average FS.

Don't know about this EZSCI, might just do another test with it as well.... is it payware?
thx
rgds
~^..^~
Bear
Posted on Wed, May 12 2004 18:39
by cm
Joined on Fri, Dec 20 2002, vienna, Posts 9146
it's not about the clustersize (which is 64k by default) but the portions which the raid controllers or benchmark programs are using to transfer data. don't know aida, but usually you should be able to select filesize for benchmarks. EZSCSI is payware and comes with several adaptec controllers
christian
and remember: a CRAY is the only computer that runs an endless loop in just four hours ...
Posted on Sat, May 15 2004 11:32
by Abel
Joined on Mon, Nov 10 2003, Los Angeles, CA, Posts 154
Just on topic of HDs... I've heard there're first 400MB units already!!!
How large are Raptors?
Posted on Sat, May 15 2004 12:23
by Tomkovsky
Joined on Thu, Feb 05 2004, Posts 39
I think they are only available in 36Gb or 74Gb at the moment and are more than twice the price of an equivalent 7200rpm SATA drive.
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