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  • multi note tremolos with VSL or VI SE?

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    Hi all!

    I am the owner of VSL full pro edition on several GS machines and VI SE, I dont have $$ to upgrade to the full VI.

    I have a client that needs multi note tremolos, and I thought maybe in the performance set someplace there was something, but I dont see anything. Of course there are plenty of 'tremolo' samples but those are single note tremolos and not what I consider a real tremolo. How I was taught many years ago, and how I have always performed and written tremolos is that a tremolo is moving back and forth over 2 notes, similar to a trill, just over larger intervals than a Maj 2nd. Now I have a client and who needs string tremolos over Perfect 4th and similarly larger intervals. Is there a good way to do this with either VSL full pro or VI SE? I tried some just playing of the 2 notes by hand and if it is buried down under it can pass, but I want something that sounds real. Thank you tremendously in advance for your responses :-)
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    I believe that there are tremolo samples, although I've never used them. Just be aware that a fourth tremolo on a violin and viola is easy, not so easy on a cello. A tremolo over a fifth is possible, but likely to be out of tune on a violin, but not really possible on viola or cello. Tremolos over larger intervals than this are not possible.

    DG
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    well my client is one of the most prolific 'pops' style composers who has spent 40+ years writing for strings, I am sure his tremolos are all 'playable on the real instruments' but I need to recreate them with VSL, so looking for some tips. As I mentioned I have seen the trem samples but they are 1 note tremolos and not multi note. I have the VSL full pro edition so if its part of VSL then I have it. As for the newer stuff I only have Vienna Instruments special edition. Any help at where these would be would just be so wonderful to hear about :-)

    Thank you!
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    @chris_3594 said:

    well my client is one of the most prolific 'pops' style composers who has spent 40+ years writing for strings, I am sure his tremolos are all 'playable on the real instruments' but I need to recreate them with VSL, so looking for some tips. As I mentioned I have seen the trem samples but they are 1 note tremolos and not multi note. I have the VSL full pro edition so if its part of VSL then I have it. As for the newer stuff I only have Vienna Instruments special edition. Any help at where these would be would just be so wonderful to hear about 😊

    Thank you!

    Just because someone has been doing something for years, doesn't necessarily mean they know anything about it. Just look at the economy for a start. [;)]

    Anyway, I'll try to find some time today to see what trems I have.

    DG
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    The violins in the Orchestral Strings I have fingered tremolo up to a major 3rd. Other than that, all the String Collections have performance trills, so that you can play your own. Up to a point.

    DG
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    can you tell me an example? like vi14 version .gig file I can look at or whatever the matrix in VI is or something? I realllllyyyyy appreciate it Mister DG ;-)
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    The VI patch is:

    14 VI-14_trill_4

    I've no idea what it would be in the Pro Edition, if it even exists, becuase I deleted all that stuff from my hard drives over 3 years ago. [:P]

    DG
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    Alas I only have special edition of the Vienna Instruments and that patch is not included :(

    I found some min3 and maj3 trills in the VSL but nothing past that so far, tho maybe there is something i havent seen yet in the performance edition section.

    Glad you are so rich you can delete over $5000.00 of samples from your hard drives 3 years ago, wish I was able to, and I also wish i could have upgraded more than just the SE version of the Vienna Edition... I wish that VSL was a little more appreciative of us early customers and gave us better upgrade options...

    So I guess my questions stands, does anyone know in VSL full pro edition where there are tremolos (what VSL calls 'trills') over anything larger than a Maj 3rd?

    Thank you!
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    @Another User said:

    Glad you are so rich you can delete over $5000.00 of samples from your hard drives 3 years ago, wish I was able to, and I also wish i could have upgraded more than just the SE version of the Vienna Edition... I wish that VSL was a little more appreciative of us early customers and gave us better upgrade options...

     

    It's not a question of being rich, it's a question of doing regular studio updates. The VI Cube has paid for itself many times over, not least becuase I can work twice as quickly.

    DG
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    yea I hear ya, I just spent like $15k last year in updates, upgrades, etc and thats as far as my budget would allow. I chose things like altiverb and hardware upgrades, investing deeply in xp64 for Gigastudio 4 (what a bad choice!!!) and other stuff that I thought was more imperative that when I got to the end of the upgrade period for my VSL products I only had 1500 bucks or so left, which wasnt enough to get the whole shebang. Maybe this year I will do at least a little more but it wont be before this project is finished for sure

    Anyone else have luck with trills past Maj3rd in VSL full pro edition?

    Thanks!
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