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Last post Thu, Jan 13 2011 by julian, 8 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Jan 12 2011 10:24
by jammusique
Joined on Wed, Aug 04 2004, Paris, France, Posts 262

The demo sounds fantastic. Seems like maybe we can finally work with the nuances between a passage played solo vr. a4. I'm wondering what reverb(s) were used in the video, and how wet/dry the samples are. This new recording technic by VSL might call for new reverb technics. Beer

WW complete. MirX Teldex, Cubase, PC
Posted on Wed, Jan 12 2011 19:59
by ross.harris
Joined on Thu, Sep 13 2007, New Zealand, Posts 18

Very impressive demo and a great way of managing the brass family but where are the mutes? I would buy this set immediately if there were muted and stopped sounds for horns (and I wouldn't mind a decent range of trumpet and trombone mutes). I can't understand why VSL keeps leaving them out.

Otherwise I am very happy working with VSL day after day after day.....

Ross
Posted on Wed, Jan 12 2011 20:18
by jammusique
Joined on Wed, Aug 04 2004, Paris, France, Posts 262

I know what you mean, brass come in so many flavors (mutes, stopped, blared, etc.) and this only covers some of the ground, but it seems to cover it in a new way. I’m sure that there will be a level two of this library in the future.

WW complete. MirX Teldex, Cubase, PC
Posted on Wed, Jan 12 2011 21:32
by fritzflotow
Joined on Mon, Apr 23 2007, Posts 322

At some point, there will be every single instrument of the orchestra available as a soloist ... up to every string player sampled individually. ;-)

It's kind of the divisi approach ... I like it! I won't go for it this time, though.It sounds great, I admitt, but I am missing mutes, too. What also worries me, is that I already have all the Brass Libs from VSL (plus other companys' brass).

Where is the end, I wonder? At least, I would expect a more significant offer for loyal customers, that bought so much already. It seems to be all new sample material, I get it. But still ... where is the end ... all Strings and Woodwinds need the same approach, then all the mutes ... what else? And should i fell bad now, for buying brass I -III?

Still, the sound ist great ... Drinks

Posted on Thu, Jan 13 2011 07:20
by pringlestar
Joined on Sun, Mar 02 2008, SoCal, Posts 29

Finally!  I have been waiting for this!  It will be so nice to have a single solution, instead of fighting to get all the different libraries in my Frankenstein's-Monster-of-an orchestra to play nicely together, what with the different reverb, placement, recording techniques.  Garritan started with the ensemble building thing and I have been surprised how slowly it has caught on.  There's no reason to not sample each player.

Posted on Thu, Jan 13 2011 19:35
by herb
Joined on Mon, Aug 05 2002, Posts 4622

Dear community,

thanks to all for your interest.

We've worked on the Vienna Dimension Brass for two years and decided that the public should not wait longer to get access to this new baby. From our opinion it's filling a lot of gaps, and enables a complete new and smart workflow arranging with brass instruments.

Regarding mixing, the Dimension Brass can integrated without any problems in a MIR, a VE PRO/Vienna Suite, or any other mixing enviroment.

Demos produced with different mixing approaches will be uploaded very soon.

best

Herb

Posted on Thu, Jan 13 2011 19:58
by jasensmith
Joined on Tue, Jan 15 2008, Arizona, Posts 1582
fritzflotow wrote:

Where is the end, I wonder? At least, I would expect a more significant offer for loyal customers, that bought so much already. It seems to be all new sample material, I get it. But still ... where is the end ... all Strings and Woodwinds need the same approach, then all the mutes ... what else? And should i fell bad now, for buying brass I -III?

 

Speaking from a marketing point of view, it will never end.  Remember, we're dealing with a specific type of technology here and in order to remain competitive in any market based on evolving technology you have to continually pump out new and ground breaking products.  If after the Iphone came out Apple said, "well, that's it folks,  No more.  No need for any further development."  They would be out of business in about six months.

There are still people using samples from the old Horizon series successfully so don't feel bad for your Brass collections as they will still be useful now and probably 20 years or so from now because, as you say...

fritzflotow wrote:

Still, the sound ist great ... Drinks

 


"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it."
- W.C. Fields
Posted on Thu, Jan 13 2011 19:59
by julian
Joined on Fri, Jan 07 2005, UK, Posts 720

I'd be interested to know if these new sample recordings took the opportunity to extend the higher octaves of the horns and trumpets. As has been commented on a number of occasions and in my experience reflects modern orchestral recordings the current brass libraries do not provide the high notes that are called for (and achieved) on many scores.

Thanks

Julian

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