I'm happy to announce the first bundle of Vienna Dimension Brass demos.
Thanks a lot to Jay, Guy, and Christian! [:)]
http://vsl.co.at/en/211/442/412/1943/1947/1600.htm
best
Herb
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Vienna Dimension Brass demos online
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Is there any chance you could redo the Williams with a little less reverb (or whatever the MIR appropriate term is!) - ie somewhat more like, for example, the original Imperial March soundtrack?
It's hard to hear exactly what the brass is getting up to.
Steve
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I am a bit mixed about the demos. I wanted so much to love it. And I do, partially. But some of it sounds rather weird, which might boil down to EQ and reverb settings but I don't know. Would like to hear some demos with more bite in the trumpets (less midfreq, more HF). Also, is the portamento time controllable, or are you stuck with the portamentos that were recorded? I notice a quite obvious portamento in a solo trumpet in one of Guy's demos which I'd rather not be forced to use all the time:))
I too would love a version of Imperial March without the reverb overdone like this. I wish you had included a solo tuba too btw, but I realize you probably think you already did plenty of that in the other brass offerings. I guess there is not demo of Dimension Brass on the new VSL "sampler" harddrive, right?
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That would have been awesome but no, the Exploration Kit doesn't have the Dimension Brass on it.
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Call me naive but I just learned about the sequencer template function in VI Pro. KILLER. I dunno about those guys at that other music website but I'm loving VSL more and more these days. Beautiful sounds, killer player
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Call me naive but I just learned about the sequencer template function in VI Pro. KILLER. I dunno about those guys at that other music website but I'm loving VSL more and more these days. Beautiful sounds, killer player
I think you just have to accept that people have different tastes, and in any case some people just don't know what an orchestra sounds like. I don't really care what anyone else thinks about products; I'm confident enough (cocky?) in my own judgment to decide what works and what doesn't.
DG
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@DG said:
I think you just have to accept that people have different tastes, and in any case some people just don't know what an orchestra sounds like. I don't really care what anyone else thinks about products; I'm confident enough (cocky?) in my own judgment to decide what works and what doesn't.I agree: VSL is the only company publishing demos like the imperial march, which can be compared to the original. That makes them more vulnerable, of course, because really everyone knows, how that piece is supposed to sound.
But I still think (as I posted more than a year ago) that VSL should consider some priorities regarding further development, to stay on top of the game:
- divisi samples have been quite successful, so dimension is a good move
- convincing ensemble sound is also kind of covered by MIR
What I really miss:
- a revolutionary cross-fade improvement (morphing???)
- real time sample stretch (short notes, legato transitions and runs)
- tempo sync with main daw (especially for runs)
- physical modelling/sample modelling 😉 ... well, they have the same disadvantages on the ensemble side (if not even more) but in terms of realtime control nothing can beat them .. of course there are a lot of people not liking the sound, well ... taste ...
I think the priority should be to make the samples that have been recorded so far more tweakable an more user friendly. MIR and VIpro is a good step in that direction. More of that and there will be more customers for the existing libraries, as well!
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I keep insisting that VSL sounds most like a live orchestra. I've seen a number of concerts where I've sat over the orchestra and the sound always reminds me of VSL. I ought to stop visiting some other forums where the majority of composers on there are guys doing game scores and who are proud that they learned more about orchestration from using EWQLSO than studying Adler or Kennon. rolls eyes.
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@fritzflotow said:
- a revolutionary cross-fade improvement (morphing???)
Very true!
Thats the one thing were Lass is better. Their crossfades are so seamless.
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keep insisting that VSL sounds most like a live orchestra.
I am not comparing a sample library with a Hans Zimmer Sound track, but with a good recording of either classical music or traditional soundtrack. A sample library cannot be compared to a live orchestra experience, but only to the recording, since you listen to it via monitors and not in a hall.
That being said, it should be a matter of a good mix to make it sound like either classical music (which gets a lot of processing as well!) or sound track. VSL has that potential to be processed to your liking.
I am just saying this out of my experience: I never managed to get the same great textures throughout a piece with any processing on VSL, then with mixing in some other libraries with more room. Nor did I hear any demos without some kind of plastic feeling at some point. Even with MIR.
