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Posted on Mon, Apr 18 2011 22:17
by bogdan
Joined on Fri, Apr 18 2008, Canada/ Brockville, Posts 271

Hello everybody,

  I'm writing mostly for MIR users, both MIR SE and  full version. After playing around with the demo of MIR SE, I decided to go with it, since indeed there is no better option on the market, in having a nice acoustical arrangement of virtual instruments ( at least IMO) . I red a lot of threads about computer specs requirements and what VSL suggested about the computer performance. Now, since a six core Intel is on the market for a while, I 'm asking if this processor will handle moderate projects with MIR SE /and or probably in the future a full project with full MIR. Of course using at least 24 RAM.

 Does anyone has some experience in using MIR with this processor and if yes, how it handles  the operations? or... I should go for a double core as it's suggested on the VSL site ?!

Thanks for any suggestions

Best

Bogdan

Posted on Tue, Apr 19 2011 08:42
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7451

Hello Bogdan,

thanks for the friendly words.

I will ask our local hardware-gurus for their thoughts on this.

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Apr 19 2011 13:29
by Air
Joined on Wed, Jan 22 2003, Vienna, Posts 288
Posted on Tue, Apr 19 2011 15:10
by doubleattack
Joined on Fri, Jul 09 2010, Leipzig, Germany, Posts 237

Hi Bogdan,

I'm a simple user since last august; I'm on a i7 980X (@ 6x4 GHz, HT on), Motherboard X58; 24 GB RAM; the most samples streamed from two 256 SSD; 

that's a certified DAW for MIR and I'm very glad until today for deciding to go with those machine. Very stable, no glitches and stutters using low latencies (128 or 256) for moderate projects (until using of 14 GB RAM) - CPU usage 15 - 40 %); and works very well even for a whole orchestra - naturally I have to choice than a latency buffer between (512 until 2048), depends of the arrangement. In this way never I didn't care for the Mir requirements...On this system it hasn't been noticeable for me. Hope the informations are helpful for you.    

 Best

Frank

Posted on Tue, Apr 19 2011 15:50
by bogdan
Joined on Fri, Apr 18 2008, Canada/ Brockville, Posts 271

Thank you Dietz and Doubleattack for your input. Doubleattack can I ask you what is the manufacturer of the certified station ?...I'm not sure if is allowed here to put names of the other companies, but I need it  is just for info. Hopefully is from VSL recommended certified stations. I'm a little bit intrigued about streaming from 2 ssds; I was thinking to construct the system by myself but I've never taken into consideration using SSD for streaming. Interesting details though. Thank you once again!

 Best

B

Posted on Tue, Apr 19 2011 15:58
by bogdan
Joined on Fri, Apr 18 2008, Canada/ Brockville, Posts 271

Thanks Air , but I haven't seen anything yet:)

All the best

B

Posted on Tue, Apr 19 2011 20:28
by doubleattack
Joined on Fri, Jul 09 2010, Leipzig, Germany, Posts 237

 Hello Bogdan,

the certified workstation is a vsl recommended one - build of da-x (Digital AudionetworX) Berlin. I've read somewhere that first time vsl hasn't been satisfied with the work by the Berliners, but I can confirm, that their daw for MIR is working very well!  I'm really not a technic expert at all, so I can't say that for shure, but I'm very happy about their service.

I think the SSD HDs are an important part of the concept of such audio - DAW (with RAID 0 - which seems important for good streaming but don't ask me why :-) ) . Beside the noiseless write and reading, it increases the load times incredible. I'm really happy with the whole thing - every day again. Works all like a dream. 

If you want to construct a system by yourself be aware that you need a good (silent!) Cooler and PSU too. As I said, I'm a complete layman regarding technic, but with a look on the specs I see that is same important for such strong systems like a powerful CPU or RAM.

Best

Frank

Posted on Tue, Apr 19 2011 20:50
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7451

We have links to suppliers of certified workstations available here: ->http://www.vsl.co.at/en/211/497/1687/455/1750/1386.htm

HTH,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Apr 19 2011 21:15
by bogdan
Joined on Fri, Apr 18 2008, Canada/ Brockville, Posts 271

Many Thanks to Doubleattack and Dietz  for info, it really helps to get a grasp of how to approach this new system configuration.

Anyway, I'm looking right now to see what systems they have for North America. After that, I'm going to go with MIR SE first and waiting the big update to take the full version.

Anyways, so nice of you to give me some ideas of what to choose ,

All the best

B

Posted on Wed, Apr 20 2011 12:06
by Agostino
Joined on Fri, Dec 25 2009, France, Posts 26
Hello,
I too have MIR SE and I think it's quite a great product. I have a little question about it: is there any user here that has the roompack 2(I mean the one with the Teldex ir)? Since this roompack isn't exactly free, I would like to know if it is really necessary if someone wants to achieve a "filmscore" sound, i.e. less "concert".

Thank you in advance, ciao :)
Posted on Wed, Apr 20 2011 13:52
by doubleattack
Joined on Fri, Jul 09 2010, Leipzig, Germany, Posts 237

That's as always really a matter of taste, but the teldex studio and even every venue of the ORF studios is uniquely. IMHO the choice of the venue is very depends on the music material - so I think it's always good to have a wide range of possibilities. I find myself constantly alternate using all three roompacks, ' cause the venues of every roompack are very well selected for different requirements.

Finally speaking for myself, I find that the teldex studio has rounded off the options of the venues. So I find it very useful - for some kind of music.

Frank

Posted on Wed, Apr 20 2011 16:16
by bogdan
Joined on Fri, Apr 18 2008, Canada/ Brockville, Posts 271

Hi Agostino,

I'm away of only one click to buy this wonderful product. Just a question since you own it, possibly a silly question: how you construct for example a wind quintet or a mixed octet ? I have seen only three templates and when I tried the demo, I was more into how it sounds rather to think of constructing different arrangements?

Many Thanks 

B

Posted on Wed, Apr 20 2011 16:47
by bogdan
Joined on Fri, Apr 18 2008, Canada/ Brockville, Posts 271

Oh..and another thing; I've seen that with full MIR.1.2 the VI pro is also integrated; but how about  MIR SE, it has the same feature ? 

Thanks

B

Posted on Wed, Apr 20 2011 19:07
by Agostino
Joined on Fri, Dec 25 2009, France, Posts 26
Hi Bogdan, If you are only one click away from buying the product, the word "buying" says that I personally have said enough (too much a responsability)...there are trial versions of many products, and it's also a matter of taste...


In general, the great thing of these times is that you can turn your musical ideas into sounds in just a few minutes (ok, I read this in another thread)...but if you want to achieve the perfect mix, I am not a professional and can't give you any advice.


Ciao :)
Posted on Wed, Apr 20 2011 20:03
by bogdan
Joined on Fri, Apr 18 2008, Canada/ Brockville, Posts 271

Hi Agostino,

Please, don't worry about "making " me to buy this software :)), I already took this decision few weeks ago. It was just a question about constructing different ensembles with MIR SE, and not achieving the perfect mix...in fact, honestly, which is the "perfect mix"? ;). Definitely, the message was intended to find out more about this feature, and not to involve someone and make him/her responsible for my actions. So, if you are willing to share how you construct different instruments arrangements with MIR SE is ok, if not, is ok also:)

I'm really sorry if my message was taken as inappropriate, it was really meant to provide me only some details from the ones who already own MIR SE

All the best,

B

Posted on Wed, Apr 20 2011 23:11
by noldar12
Joined on Thu, Dec 04 2008, Posts 582

 bogdan, I would suggest that you read through the MIR (and MIR SE) manual.  It spells things out very well.  While templates are included that can get you started, you will usually be needing to create your own, as any particular piece might require a completely different instrument group.

It is very easy to set up unique templates for any sort of ensemble you might need.  All you have to do is add an instrument, position it where you want it on the stage, and then create a matrix of whatever patches you need for that instrument.  Do so for each instrument, and you are done.  You can save each template you make for future use.

Posted on Wed, Apr 20 2011 23:41
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7451

Bogdan, all your questions are perfectly valid - no need to be shy. :-)

If you want to get a feel about the basic sound of a Venue, you can always listen to the pre-rendered "Previews" we supply for MIR's Room Editor window as well as online: ->  http://www.vsl.co.at/en/211/497/1687/364/1929/1581.htm

Of course, there are complete musical demos available, too, for example here:  ->  
 http://www.vsl.c...7/1687/364/1967/1635.htm

Personally, the Teldex Recording Hall is maybe the most versatile Venue available for MIR right now, and for my ears it sounds _awsome_, for single instruments as well as for big orchestras. :-)

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Apr 20 2011 23:45
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7451

Oh - I forgot to tell you that VI Pro works within MIR SE too as soon as the engine has found a valid license on your dongle.

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Apr 21 2011 01:22
by bogdan
Joined on Fri, Apr 18 2008, Canada/ Brockville, Posts 271

Hey,

Thanks Dietz and Noldar 12, 

I remained out of questions and I'm also happy to know that everything is exactly how I imagined.

 err....there is still one:  where in the world is my credit card? :))...just kidding !!

All the best

B

Posted on Thu, Apr 21 2011 09:14
by Agostino
Joined on Fri, Dec 25 2009, France, Posts 26
Hi Bogdan, No problem at all, i didn't take your message as inappropriate. My last reply was because I have seen many threads in this and other forums, where the subject was "how to achieve that particular sound".

I have purchased Mir just about one month ago, and haven't yet tried the instruments configuration that you are trying to obtain. But in this site you can download some "positioning templates" that maybe can help you. Otherwise just position the instruments according to their traditional location in the stage, i.e. strings quartet etc.".


I hope this helped a little, bye have a nice day!
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