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Last post Wed, Sep 28 2011 by Cyril Blanc, 8 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Sep 23 2011 16:03
by tim_heinrich
Joined on Thu, Oct 11 2007, Posts 39

I got a PC slave and my Dual-Mac (2,66 GHz, 20 GB RAM) with Logic running. All the VE Pro instances seem to use half of the CPU-power. Is this normal? How I can get a better performance?

Posted on Fri, Sep 23 2011 19:31
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2664

Can you give more details.

How many VE pro? do you use swap ? Mac os ? .......

Disks ?

today I had a very bad surprised ; "Coreaudio overload" when I play the 1st time a song recorded the day before ; only 5 track of audio no midi, all my VSL tracks empty !

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Sun, Sep 25 2011 14:41
by tim_heinrich
Joined on Thu, Oct 11 2007, Posts 39

I use about 20 VE Pro on a slave PC. What is swap? How to use it? I got Mac OS 10.6.8 as host with Logic 9. Disks?

Posted on Sun, Sep 25 2011 16:53
by Jack Weaver
Joined on Sat, Mar 27 2004, Tucson, AZ, Posts 391

I don't know if VEP 'needs too much' power per se. However, within Logic the instances (of VEP and Vienna Suite) do all seem to pile up on one core. It does to a certain extent limit the fun of the experience and the number of VEP instances.

It's not  just a problem with VSL software - it would seem to be an issue with Apple's Logic. For example, East West's Spaces does the same thing. I'm sure there are many other examples.

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Mac Master:
2010 Mac Pro 12-core. 3.46GHz, 64 GB RAM, OSX 10.12.3, Logic Pro X 10.3.1 ,VEP5, SSD system drive, etc.

PC Slave:
12-core e5650, 48 GB RAM, Win7, MIR Pro/VEP5, SSD system drive
Posted on Sun, Sep 25 2011 20:05
by vosk
Joined on Tue, Jul 08 2008, Posts 130

I use about 30 VE PRO on 2 slave PC. No problem! :)

Posted on Mon, Sep 26 2011 02:35
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2664

You need to explain what disk you are using, where are you VSL lib, your songs, your system

To check the swap ====>> "activity moitor/system memory/swap used

If it is = to 0 after one hours of use, your system run in good contidions ; if not and you use 5400 rpm disks you have solution like :

- add more memory

- use SSD

- wait VE PRO 3

...

To reduce the load on your system you can increase the buffersizes In Logic and in VSL

On my 1st Macpro (12 core) I have 84 x VI (8 x VE) and i use 20 % of CPUBig Smile

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Tue, Sep 27 2011 19:29
by tim_heinrich
Joined on Thu, Oct 11 2007, Posts 39

I uses disks with 7200rpm. Everyone.

Swap used 0 Byte

I got 20 GB RAM in my Host Mac. I have increased the buffersize to 512 Samples (24ms). Is it just, that I got a Dual Core?

Posted on Wed, Sep 28 2011 01:43
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2664

If you do not have real time recording you can put Logic's buffersize to 1024

A dual core is slower than an 12 core !

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
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