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Kontakt 5 outputs gone wrong in VEPro build 11262?
Last post Sat, Sep 01 2012 by tommalm, 13 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Aug 29 2012 18:20
by Frankie Ho
Joined on Sat, Aug 06 2005, Hong Kong, Posts 85

Hello,

Just wonder if anyone encountering this as well.  Let's say I have 4 pairs of stereo outputs in K5 (K5O1 to K5O4) and 4 input channels in VEpro (VEPin1 to VEPin4), and it has been routed as K5O1 > VEPin1, K5O2 > VEPin2, and so on.  After installing build 11262 today and loading up my usual template, I found the routings of the outputs of K5 do not go to the correct inputs in VEpro, let's say it becomes :

K5O1 > VEPin1
K5O2 > VEPin3
K5O3 > VEPin3 and(!!) VEPin4
K5O4 > no sound

Sorry I cannot provide more info nor do any troubleshootings for the moment as I need to start a new project tomorrow so I already installed back an older build, which is working correctly again.  I am just curious if anyone else encounters this or not.  Or perhaps it's my bad luck? Crying

Cheers,
Frankie 

DAW : iMac - Core i5 3.60GHz, 8GB RAM, OSX 10.6.8, Cubase 6.5, Samplitude X
Slave : Dell T3500 - Xeon Quad-core 2.66GHz, 12GB RAM, Windows 7 x64
Posted on Wed, Aug 29 2012 18:36
by dlpmusic
Joined on Sun, Jan 19 2003, Posts 283

YES!!!!  I have this problem on several Kontakts and had to find wierd new outputs to assign them to to get it to work.

Posted on Wed, Aug 29 2012 18:46
by Frankie Ho
Joined on Sat, Aug 06 2005, Hong Kong, Posts 85

Well, thanks for the reply, at least I know I am not alone!

I tried reassigning the in/out-puts as well but they got so random that I decided to go back to an older build instead. 

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Slave : Dell T3500 - Xeon Quad-core 2.66GHz, 12GB RAM, Windows 7 x64
Posted on Thu, Aug 30 2012 02:56
by Frankie Ho
Joined on Sat, Aug 06 2005, Hong Kong, Posts 85

Dear VSL team

I tested it again today and so far I got the following findings :

DAW : iMac - Core i5 3.60GHz, 8GB RAM, OSX 10.6.8, Cubase 6.5, Samplitude X
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Posted on Thu, Aug 30 2012 20:28
by dlpmusic
Joined on Sun, Jan 19 2003, Posts 283

For what it is worth I am on PC's.

Posted on Fri, Aug 31 2012 02:28
by Karel
Joined on Mon, Jan 19 2009, Belgium, Posts 2173

I'll have a look at this tomorrow. Thanks for reporting.

Karel Bassez
Software Engineer
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Aug 31 2012 04:55
by Frankie Ho
Joined on Sat, Aug 06 2005, Hong Kong, Posts 85

Thanks a lot Karel! :)

DAW : iMac - Core i5 3.60GHz, 8GB RAM, OSX 10.6.8, Cubase 6.5, Samplitude X
Slave : Dell T3500 - Xeon Quad-core 2.66GHz, 12GB RAM, Windows 7 x64
Posted on Fri, Aug 31 2012 16:52
by tommalm
Joined on Thu, Aug 14 2003, Norway, Posts 91

 Hi!

I think this is because of the added mono output support in VEP. When you load up a Kontakt instance in your sequencer (presuming you haven't changed Kontakts output config), Kontakt will be setup with about 4 stereo ouputs, while all the rest (about 50) will be mono channels

So what you have to do is go to the "output" tab in Kontakt and reconfigure your outputs. Click "add channels" and add the desired number of (stereo) channels, and you should probably check  "Delete existing channels...". Then restart your project, and Kontakt will be loaded with the correct number of stereo outputs, and the output in VEP should be correct.

-tom

Posted on Sat, Sep 01 2012 08:58
by Frankie Ho
Joined on Sat, Aug 06 2005, Hong Kong, Posts 85

Hello Tom

Thanks for your suggestion and it did solve the routing problem BUT I had to start a project fresh, which seems not be a feasible solution as I already have a working template.  I know I could just start anew but consider all the FX inserts inside Kontakt and VEPro it would be a nightmare!

Hope VSL will come up with a solution, as I believe if it worked in the past, there must be a way to make it work now too. 

Thanks again anyway :)
Frankie 

EDIT : On the bright side, if an older build works and I have no need for the new features in the newer build, I would consider this solved! :) I still hope VSL will have some ways to solve this though in their future builds.  Thanks all!

DAW : iMac - Core i5 3.60GHz, 8GB RAM, OSX 10.6.8, Cubase 6.5, Samplitude X
Slave : Dell T3500 - Xeon Quad-core 2.66GHz, 12GB RAM, Windows 7 x64
Posted on Sat, Sep 01 2012 09:13
by Frankie Ho
Joined on Sat, Aug 06 2005, Hong Kong, Posts 85

Oh BTW, I guess this should be the culprit, according to Tom?

"WIN: Added support for VST's with mixed stereo/mono output buses (such as BFD2)" 

DAW : iMac - Core i5 3.60GHz, 8GB RAM, OSX 10.6.8, Cubase 6.5, Samplitude X
Slave : Dell T3500 - Xeon Quad-core 2.66GHz, 12GB RAM, Windows 7 x64
Posted on Sat, Sep 01 2012 11:17
by tommalm
Joined on Thu, Aug 14 2003, Norway, Posts 91

 Hi!

You do not have to start a new project. When you reconfigure the output on 1 Kontakt instance, and restart the VE Pro server, it will be reconfigured for all Kontakt instances. I just did this on a template weighing in on about 60 gb. You may have to manually assign some outputs on some Kontakt instruments, but that shoudn't be to time consuming. Just save a new default output setup in Kontakt (VST), and reload your template. That should do it.

Posted on Sat, Sep 01 2012 12:27
by Frankie Ho
Joined on Sat, Aug 06 2005, Hong Kong, Posts 85

Hi Tom,

It is working now, thank you so much!  Guess I have missed or overlooked something on my first try.

Thanks again :)

Frankie

DAW : iMac - Core i5 3.60GHz, 8GB RAM, OSX 10.6.8, Cubase 6.5, Samplitude X
Slave : Dell T3500 - Xeon Quad-core 2.66GHz, 12GB RAM, Windows 7 x64
Posted on Sat, Sep 01 2012 17:07
by tommalm
Joined on Thu, Aug 14 2003, Norway, Posts 91

 Great! I'm glad it worked out! Smile

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