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Posted on Mon, Aug 05 2013 07:53
by mspape
Joined on Mon, Oct 09 2006, Posts 45

Hi,

While spending quite a number of hours doing mindnumbingly tedious clicking, I was contemplating what could be done to improve VIPro somewhat more. Here's what I was doing.

I had made a new preset for dimension strings, violins 1. Using ViPro and the nifty ctrl+alt+w trick described elsewhere, I changed VI_P1_ into VI_P2, all good and saving a lot of time*, but the humanise presets (curves, delays, etc) stays the same. As one might expect, I suppose. So, I go, for the other 7 violins, x matrices, and y cells, change them all into a different preset (because otherwise, the randomness will be the same 12 sequence randomness for each violin, mainly making the whole orchestra sound wonky rather than natural). Given x is 3, y is 15, I was getting rather fed up by the time I had done this 315 times. But then I noticed it's actually 7 violins, x matrices, y cells and z slots. And I gave up.

So, the request is: can a feature like "apply change over all matrices/cells/slots" be implemented somehow? My favourite way would be by being able to select multiple cells in a matrix and affect the same parameter over all slots within that matrix. Some software does this by only showing the value of the parameter if it is equal across instances.

Sorry about the rant, thanks for listening. I like MirX by the way (trial), though I dread implementing that across all my VE presets...

Best,

M.

* Notice this works, but not necessarily to VC_P1, even if the patches are named accordingly. There seems to be some sort of bug by which the register of VI will be applied to VC, so no sound is coming out of the lower register. In fact, even if you at that point reload the patch from VC_P1_RE_, this still doesn't change. However, if you load VC_P1_C_ into it, it does. I know the ctrl+alt+w thing isn't supported, so it doesn't constitute as a bug, but thought I should mention it anyway.

Posted on Tue, Feb 11 2014 03:36
by Frankie Ho
Joined on Sat, Aug 06 2005, Hong Kong, Posts 85

mspape wrote:
So, the request is: can a feature like "apply change over all matrices/cells/slots" be implemented somehow? My favourite way would be by being able to select multiple cells in a matrix and affect the same parameter over all slots within that matrix. Some software does this by only showing the value of the parameter if it is equal across instances.

I second that!  I found it strange with VI Pro such a versatile and flexible software without a mass edit/mass apply/copy & paste options.  Suppose I want to customize the staccato patch, then I will need to do it all over again 7 more times for the other violins (in Dimension Strings). Hope it will be implemented in the future! Smile

Frankie 

DAW : iMac - Core i5 3.60GHz, 8GB RAM, OSX 10.6.8, Cubase 6.5, Samplitude X
Slave : Dell T3500 - Xeon Quad-core 2.66GHz, 12GB RAM, Windows 7 x64
Posted on Tue, Feb 11 2014 21:17
by mspape
Joined on Mon, Oct 09 2006, Posts 45

Hi, yeah - I still stand by this as well. I'd particularly like it if I'd be able to select multiple patches/slots and can edit multiple values (i.e., if the parameters have the same value X, we see X and can set all to new value, while if they have different values, we see -- or such, as is the way some graphic design and IDEs work).

In the mean time, I too look forward to each new bit of Vienna Dimension with that kind of awful feeling: it's so great, but SO MUCH WORK :) Bitter sweet.

Michiel

Posted on Wed, Feb 12 2014 02:34
by Frankie Ho
Joined on Sat, Aug 06 2005, Hong Kong, Posts 85

After I finished setup the strings template, or should I say, 80% of the strings template without basses, I can only say.... WOW!  I have only used half of the strings for each section so I don't need to bother about those transpose/placement tricks of creating 2nd violin, and it already sounds very lush and full to me! (and NO I am not doing an epic cinematic patriotic score, before anyone challenges me Cool

It took a bit of work modifying the expression maps (using Cubase here) to suit my use too, but it totaly worths it.  Hope to see the Basses released soon!

Frankie 

DAW : iMac - Core i5 3.60GHz, 8GB RAM, OSX 10.6.8, Cubase 6.5, Samplitude X
Slave : Dell T3500 - Xeon Quad-core 2.66GHz, 12GB RAM, Windows 7 x64
Posted on Wed, Feb 12 2014 03:08
by William
Joined on Sun, Nov 24 2002, USA, Posts 5585

if you ctrl-alt click on humanize, you can change all articulations to a different humanize preset number

Posted on Sat, Mar 22 2014 20:13
by Dominique
Joined on Fri, Aug 08 2008, Posts 178

+1 on this request. Especially with Dimension Strings it would be a huge timesaver if it was possible to select multiple cells and slots.

Posted on Sat, Sep 06 2014 14:09
by mspape
Joined on Mon, Oct 09 2006, Posts 45

Sorry for the late reply, I'm actually only here because every now and then I forget what is the "change all patchnames to" shortcut which isn't in the manual. So I just noticed your reply, and wanted to say: thanks. Never noticed that - this does save time.

Posted on Sun, Sep 07 2014 05:41
by Casiquire
Joined on Sat, May 01 2010, Posts 325

I don't mind this thread getting bumped so many months later because I'd love to see it implemented.  Surprised there's no official response yet.

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