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Does anyone have any favorite EQ settings for the Dimension Cellos? I spent some time working on the sound yesterday and this morning, and kept coming back to a (pretty drastic?) high pass around 200 Hz. Not being an EQ expert, I thought someone else might have a more refined favorite setting.
Hi Symfoniq,
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Paul
If you are using cellos in a symphonic orchestral context, they should be EQ'd down in the lower range generally so the idea of high pass is basically right though it can'[t be too much as Dietz mentioned. This is because the cello, though it has deep bass tones, does not carry in the bass as in the tenor range with distance. So when you hear them in an orchestra (from a distance) it is very unnatural to have booming deep bass from the cellos. So I have used a low shelf EQ in the bass range down around 6 to 9 db and it sounds more natural for orchestral use. Of course if it is a solo cello up close, you would never do this, and probably not with chamber either, since there you are hearing them more closely and the depth of their bass is more noticeable.
byw I have noticed that the EQ used for cellos in orchestra is almost exactly the same as what you would use for both harp and tam-tam. It is a similar reason - the bass tones of the harp or the large tam-tam are actually very deep, but not strong in amplitude. The real strength of both sounds is in the middle and/or high range, and so if they are too audible in bass from far away as in orchestral use, it is weird sounding. On tam-tam you will notice this if you audition something like Rite of Spring - the sound is almost all mid-range, though if your ear were right up to the tam-tam there would be very deep bass. So the point is, the audio perspective affects this a lot.
Thank you for your responses.
I definitely have my eye on Vienna Suite. I'm just waiting for my wallet to catch up with my appetite. However, it only just occurred to me that I could probably learn quite a bit about EQing orchestral instruments from studying VSL's presets. That makes it even more appealing.
I really appreciate your insight, William. Fascinating stuff. That kind of information can be hard to find. If there's a book out there that is to orchestral mixing what Piston and Forsyth are to orchestration, I'd love to hear about it.
That said, MIR is an incredible product, and has taken most of the guesswork out of achieving a fantastic mix. Every time I use this software, I'm astounded at what it can do, and grateful to live in an age where such miracles are possible. So, thank you, VSL team.
Thanks fory our friendly words, Symfoniq! 😊
As a MIR Pro user, you could try the "Clean Low-Mids" Character Preset I made for the Dimension Cellos. This setting was meant to address the issue you mentioned.
@Symfoniq said:
[...] If there's a book out there that is to orchestral mixing what Piston and Forsyth are to orchestration, I'd love to hear about it.[...]
There are no books I know of, I'm afraid. The reason might be that there are no rules and no "cooking receipes" ...
Kind regards,
Good Evening.
I´m trying to download Vienna suite pro (demo version) and i can´t i don´t know why? "You are not eligible to buy a Demo Product".
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Hopefully this is the right place to post this:
Does anyone have any favorite EQ settings for the Dimension Cellos? I spent some time working on the sound yesterday and this morning, and kept coming back to a (pretty drastic?) high pass around 200 Hz. Not being an EQ expert, I thought someone else might have a more refined favorite setting.
I recommend to use a Technique called EQ Sweeping. You can make one Band narrow and boost them to max db and slowly sweeping trough the Band and you can easily detect ringing and harsh Sound and then simply cut them with a narrow Q Setting. I combine this Technique listen to the whole Piece in Mono, then I hear the Relation between the Instruments.
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