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Last post Mon, Feb 01 2016 by Tensivity, 7 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Jul 17 2014 21:34
by bogdan
Joined on Fri, Apr 18 2008, Canada/ Brockville, Posts 271

Impressions , anybody..

Posted on Sat, Jul 19 2014 21:41
Joined on Sat, Sep 18 2010, Posts 499

This is harsh, but honest. I won't give anyone my money until Steinberg's upcoming notation software is done.

I own Notion, but it's far behind other notation programs. That's being modest. Cubase is still faster to compose in for sequencer work and Sibelius/Finale are leaps and bounds ahead of Notion for engraving and making your performers happy. Furthermore... Notion failed me while Steinberg has served me well for years. And Sibelius is the easiest notation program out there. Two of the greatest software teams, both of which I use as they serve orchestral composing better than anyone else IMO, are working on something better together now. What more could I ask for? It's a dream come true.

1) Compose in notation as easily and as fast as in a sequencer.

2) Quality and realistic mock-ups with less effort

3) As much automation over engraving work as possible to save time... while still having user control.

These things have seriously lacked in every other notation program... and this is what Steinberg is looking to accomplish. I'm not investing my time in learning and committing to something that is still behind the Sibelius/Finale offerings. With something better on its way, it makes even less sense.


Posted on Sat, Jul 19 2014 23:43
by bogdan
Joined on Fri, Apr 18 2008, Canada/ Brockville, Posts 271

I did not find anything harsh; in fact, I think everybody is waiting for the big event: Steinberg's notation software and its integration with their DAW. Indeed Sibelius and FInale are miles away from Notion. I was just wondering if this upgrade went far enough; that's all.

All best

Posted on Thu, Aug 28 2014 00:20
by Tralen
Joined on Sat, May 08 2010, Brasil, Posts 52

I've used Notion with VSL in the past and manage to work with it well, but was never able to produce good scores for print. In the end, I always went back to Sibelius when I needed something printed. My opinion about this version is uncomplimentary, I see nothig but a pastiche, rushed to bring Notion into the Presonus domain. Time will tell if Notion will benefit anything out of this alliance, but I think not.

I share Sean's opinion, until Steinberg makes its move, I will remain deserted.

Posted on Sun, Sep 07 2014 00:25
by johnstaf
Joined on Thu, Apr 21 2011, EI, Posts 216

I've never used Notion, but I'm interested to see what happens under Presonus's ownership. Nor have I ever used Studio One, but if they have plans to integrate the two of them somehow it could be interesting.

I can't wait for the new Steinberg score editor to come out, especially if it means not having to leave Cubase for score-related tasks. I hate the Cubase score editor...

Cubase (OS agnostic). Various VSL bits and pieces.

Posted on Thu, Jan 14 2016 04:32
by VirtualVirgin
Joined on Fri, Jul 20 2012, Posts 60

Any word on this Steinberg notation software?

Posted on Mon, Feb 01 2016 05:57
by Tensivity
Joined on Sun, Dec 16 2012, San Francisco California USA, Posts 273

Originally Posted by: bogdan Go to Quoted Post

Impressions , anybody..

Notion 5 has been out for quite some time.  I've been using Notion for a few years now.  It's quite a competent notation tool, with some limitations:

1. Engraving isn't as easy or as perfect as some might want.

2. There are limitations to MIDI manipulation.  

I've been a strong supporter of the product.  I'd like to see what Presonus plans to do with it in version 6, which is coming soon.

I've posted numerous samples of my work with Notion here.  Here's a sample:



That said, I've recently purchased Overture 5 Mac and I'm very excited about the potential there for a Notation-based production platform with DAW features.


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