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Last post Mon, Oct 09 2017 by andi, 7 replies.
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Posted on Sun, Mar 08 2015 23:11
by ross.harris
Joined on Thu, Sep 13 2007, New Zealand, Posts 18

I can't seem to get any sibelius instruments to trigger the VSL jazz drum kits. I need a very small drum kit to include in an orchestral score - playing bass drum, snare and tambourine.

I may be missing the obvious but would like a push in the right direction please.

Ross
Posted on Mon, Mar 09 2015 09:02
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3480

Hello Ross!

You can use the Sibelius General MIDI sound set and load a General MIDI preset in the Vienna Instruments player. Then you trigger the Jazz drums with drum set notation. Please note that a tambourine is not included in the Vienna Jazz Drums, but as you also have the Percussion library registered, you can add a Tambourine on an extra staff with the Percussion sound set.

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Oct 01 2015 09:06
by caign
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2015, Brisbane, Posts 21

Originally Posted by: andi Go to Quoted Post
You can use the Sibelius General MIDI sound set and load a General MIDI preset in the Vienna Instruments player.

Andi, can you advise how to locate a General MIDI preset? I want open and closed hi hat and am having trouble working out how to do it. A full jazz drum kit with brushes would be fanastic.

Originally Posted by: andi Go to Quoted Post
Then you trigger the Jazz drums with drum set notation.

Can you elaborate on "drum set notation"? Can I put all the instruments on one staff?

Thanks.

Posted on Thu, Oct 01 2015 12:54
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3480

Hello caign!

You can find the Jazz Drums General MIDI presets under D - Percussion/88 Jazz Drumset/01 VI Presets/General MIDI.

For drum set notation, use one of the instruments in the Sibelius/Add Instruments menu under Drum Kit and Drum Set. To see which notehead on which line triggers which kind of sound, go to the Edit Instrument menu and look under Edit Staff Type.

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Oct 02 2015 01:59
by caign
Joined on Thu, Feb 19 2015, Brisbane, Posts 21

Originally Posted by: andi Go to Quoted Post
You can find the Jazz Drums General MIDI presets under D - Percussion/88 Jazz Drumset/01 VI Presets/General MIDI.

Excellent, thank you Andi!

And for the Sibelius unwary: You MUST use crossed note heads for Sibelius to play the hi hat, as stated in the manual, and you get an open hi hat using the Harmonic/Open symbol on the fourth page of the Keypad. But note, it does not play back as open when you click the note, only when you Play.

Posted on Sun, Oct 08 2017 22:32
by Pieter Corten
Joined on Thu, Sep 26 2013, Posts 40

Hi

In my experience there is no good way to use VSL Jazz drums in combination with Sibelius.

When using the VSL MIDI soundset it will mess up the playback of your other VSL instruments even though they appear to use the proper VSL soundset. It shouldn't, but it does.

The pitched instrument in combination with the VI Presets seemed to work for a while. Eventually the sound just disappeared without any apperant reason. It was not handy at all to use anyways.

Time for a 'VSL Jazz Drums Soundset' and a custom Sibelius instrument, I'd say.

Sincerely yours

Pieter

Posted on Mon, Oct 09 2017 08:36
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3480

Hello Pieter!

I can't reproduce your problems here. Did you activate the "Use manual sound set" checkbox and assign a drum set program on the Manual Sound Sets page for the Jazz Drums?

You can find more possible reasons and solutions for playback problems in the Troubleshooting chapter of the "Optimizing Sibelius Playback" manual.
https://www.vsl.co.at/en/MyDownloads/Notation_Related

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
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