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real sordino or fx-sordino?
Last post Tue, Jan 12 2016 by Erik, 4 replies.
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Posted on Mon, Jan 11 2016 19:19
by Erik
Joined on Sat, Nov 20 2004, The Netherlands, Posts 144


Herewith a new page on my blog dedicated to a nice experiment with a kind of fake sordino. As a result of a thread on another forum about the new sordino Dimension Strings I started fiddling around with comparing the 'real DS sordino' version with the non-muted Dimension Strings in a small chain of plugins to find out if I could get some result in achieving a convincing sordino sound with only some fx.

After hearing the original version (sordino) of Scene d'Amour from the score of Vertigo, written by Bernard Herrmann, I decided to make several tracks in an intimate chamber/studio setting based on the first part of this beautiful theme.

So you'll find

  1. Dimension Strings sordino with a VSL solo violin added (the latter with the sordino fx)
  2. Dimension Strings (non sordino) with a VSL solo violin added: no sordino fx, only a little EQ implemented
  3. Dimension Strings  (non sordino) with a VSL solo violin added: this time with the fx chain
  4. VSL Chamber sordino , with the solo violin added in the fx-version, only a little EQ implemented

Enjoy! And let me know your opnions about this of course.

Posted on Mon, Jan 11 2016 21:38
by cgernaey
Joined on Mon, Apr 04 2005, Detroit-Michigan, Posts 1062

Honestly?  I think it's great you did the comparison and testing.  However, to my ears, there is no comparison.  The true Sordino absolutely destroys the faked one.  The fake one has it's life of the sound completely sucked out of it and the real thing sound clear, crystal highs and "alive".


To me, the real thing including the Chamber String True Sordinos version sounds the best.  There is definitely a noticeable and appreciable difference between the faked and real thing.

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Posted on Tue, Jan 12 2016 02:12
by Casiquire
Joined on Sat, May 01 2010, Posts 325

I think fake sordino can certainly fill in sometimes when real sordino can't be achieved but to make it truly convincing does take some work.  Out of curiousity, did you take DS and "match" the EQ of muted DS?  Or did you try to match it to your idea of what sordino sounds like?  I love comparisons like these so thanks for taking the time!

Posted on Tue, Jan 12 2016 09:52
by Erik
Joined on Sat, Nov 20 2004, The Netherlands, Posts 144

You're maybe right, but I tried to imitate the somewhat muffled, 60's studio sound of the original sound track version as prestented on YouTube. At the time of that mockup I didn't have the real sordino DS yet, so I wasn't able to compare them exactly. The real DS has definitely the beautiful silver and transparent sound sordino strings should have imo. The same for the sordino Chamber strings.
So the match was a bit different than one between different libraires at first hand.

For those who are interested: I started with a LASS (!) timbral sordino impulse from Numerical Sounds. Implemented in the VSL Convol plugin. Added some slight dynamic EQ (TB-Fix from Toneboosters), that's about it.
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