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change pitch by a semitone or more?
Last post Fri, Oct 20 2017 by Fastel, 6 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Feb 23 2016 10:17
by mat123
Joined on Wed, Jun 24 2015, Posts 31

Hi everybody,

As with all sampled instruments, the character of the notes varies slightly. While, in general, this makes the instrument sound more realistic, sometimes this variation may not perfectly fit with the dynamics of the melody. Of course, there are many parameters I can play with, but the solution I would prefer is: select a neighboring note (one or two semitones lower/higher) that better fits and change the pitch of this note (by a semitone or two).

Is there a way to do this? I want to use this trick specifically for vsl concert guitar, but I think iot would be interesting for other instruments as well.

thanks in advance,

Matthias

Posted on Tue, Feb 23 2016 10:43
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12786

Hi Matthias, 

1) Change the pitch in VI (use the pitchbend).

2) Transpose the corresponding note in your MIDI arrangement accordingly => you will hear the same pitch, but a different sample. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Feb 23 2016 13:18
by mat123
Joined on Wed, Jun 24 2015, Posts 31

ouuups, that was simple. I just looked at the pitch range in the VI user interface which wasn't large enough to cover a semitone.

Thanks a lot!

Posted on Tue, Feb 23 2016 21:37
by mat123
Joined on Wed, Jun 24 2015, Posts 31

I just tried altering the pitch via pitchbend and it really isn't as simple as it appeared:

- the effect of a certain pitchbend value on pitch varies across samples. For repetition samples, e.g., I have to choose a different pitchbend value to get a semitone than for legato samples.

- An even bigger problem is that for none of the samples I tried I could find an (integer) pitchbend value that exactly corresponds to a semitone. One value is slightly too low, the next is too high.

Did I miss something?

Posted on Wed, Feb 24 2016 08:39
by noldar12
Joined on Thu, Dec 04 2008, Posts 582

It actually is not hard to do.  In your sequencer (or notation program) you transpose the entire part down (or up) 1/2 step (whole step if using Special Editions).  Using you pitch wheel, in your sequencer, you then raise the entire part up 1/2 step, so the part sounds at the correct pitch.  You do need to make sure that each matrix is set to respond to the pitch wheel data.  It should not be necessary to do any adjusting of the individual articulations.

Posted on Fri, Oct 20 2017 05:48
by Fastel
Joined on Wed, Nov 19 2008, Posts 32

Does the "Semitone" button in VI pitch or does it load the other sample?

 

If I have a patch normal stac(a) and a patch stac with the "semitone"-assignment(b) to " +1

And if I have the midi notes:

d1 for normal stacc and

c#1 for Semitone+1

=> will the same sample be loaded? Or does it pitch?

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