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Hello Tim!
I guess you want to trigger instruments of Epic Orchestra with Sibelius, right? To do so, please use the sound set "VE Epic Orchestra" that comes with the "VSL Soundset Installer".
http://www.vsl.co.at/en/MyDownloads/Notation_Related
I would assign CC11 to Velocity X-Fade and a different controller than CC1, CC7 or CC11 (or none) to Expression. If you have hairpins under single notes, I would turn Velocity X-Fade on. If you don't have hairpins under single notes, I would leave Velocity X-Fade turned off and let Sibelius dynamic marks simply control velocity this way.
Best regards,
Andi
Dear Andi,
I can follow your infos that the dynamics are set to CC11. VEP5 reacts to the dynamic symbols like mp or ff on CC11 set to X Fades (see attachment). As well the crecendogabeln like < or > work well on CC11.
As you can see in the attachments I have a CC1 and a CC7 set to Master volume and expression, but how to get those CCs out of sibelius? Now the expression is 0 sfter starting Sibelius. So somehow there is a value of 0 send on CC1.
Hmmm....
My dream would be to be able to automate Expression and master Volume independently from CC11 to make fine adjustments to the whole automation and production process in VEP5 controlled from Sibelius 7.1.3
BTW: How can you change articulations (pizz, legato etc) from Sibelius, too? I would think in direction of adding (hidden?) notes for keyswitches
Thanks again
Cheers
Tim
Hello Tim!
Please load the VI presets or matrices that come with the Epic Orchestra content alongside the "VE Epic Orchestra" sound set. Articulation changes will then work automatically according to your notation marks.
I would recommend using the default CC7 for Master volume. Then you can control this fader with the volume in the Sibelius mixer. As written in my previous post, I would assign a different CC number than CC1, CC7 or CC11 to Expression. If you want to automate this controller, you can do so by sending MIDI commands from Sibelius. Information on how to send MIDI commands can be found in the "Optimizing Sibelius Playback" manual, page 21 and the Sibelius Reference.
Best,
Andi
Dear Andi,
I put some text in with CMD+E (Mac):~C7,90
CC7 works fine for the MASTER VOL and is set to 90 in flute and to 80 in Piccolo as Expected. Your manual "Optimizing Sibelius Playback" suggests switching on/off Velocity XFades.
I tried ~C28,0 to turn off the Vel XFade as recommended in the manual.
This does not work.
Wouldt it be wrong to assign the dynamics (mp, ff and <>) to the Expression Controller instead of Vel X Fade? I assume that there is a difference between sliding through dynamics (hairpins; < >) compared to switching (mp, ff) What is the difference? What is best experience of combining expression and Vel X Fade with turning it on/off. How does the expression slider react then. I heard that Sibelius sends out TWO dynamic controllers (Which CCs?) all the time and so on...
Where do you post (video) tutorials on workflows like these.
THX very much!
Best regards
Tim
Hello Tim!
The command ~C28,0 works fine here for turning off Velocity X-Fade. Maybe you need to set up the controller in Vienna Instruments under Advanced/Ctrl Map/Vsl.XF On/Off. If you have loaded the correct preset, it should be assigned though.
It's not "wrong" to assign the dynamics to the Expression Controller. Please be aware though, that you will get double dynamics (velocity and expression) and piano will be very soft.
Sibelius sends out velocity and CC11. In my opinion it's best to control velocity or velocity X-Fade (CC11) with it. I would leave Expression at a static value in general that can be automated with MIDI commands when needed.
Our "VSL and Sibelius" tutorial video can be found here:
http://www.vsl.co.at/en/Products/Software#!Video_Demos
It isn't about dynamics though.
Best,
Andi
Dear Andi,
mapping Controllers is fine, works perfect.
I found this video here:
@5,50min you see a automation of CC11 and CC12
Is it common to switch Xfade on and off (CC11) for switching to Expression (CC12). What situations would that be and how to control this from Sibelius. I did not quite get it, how it is done but might be interesting,
Thanks for your patience!!
LG
Tim
Hello Tim!
Expression is just an additional volume fader - not more and not less. In the video you have mentioned (which is not by us by the way), it is controlled by CC12. MIDI commands from Sibelius for controlling CC12 look as follows:
~C12,0 (sets Expression to 0)
...
~C12,100 (sets Expression to 100)
...
~C12,127 (sets Expression to 127)
Best regards,
Andi
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