Just as the thread title asks, are the VSL soundbanks available as refills? If not, can anyone recommend other good symphonic libraries that are?
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Are the VSL soundbanks compatible with reason 2.5/3.0?
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Reason's samplers don't support disk-streaming, AFAIK, so you won't find a "serious" orchestra-library for that platform. Why not ReWire your Reason-arrangement to a host that supports a compatible sampler-platform?
Budget-wise, our Opus 1 should be exactly what you're looking for.
HTH,
/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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You could use one of those translation programs
Translator from www.chickensys.com
Cdxtract from www.cdxtract.com
Extreme Sample convertor from www.extranslator.com
Awave Studio from www.fmjsoft.com
The problem though is that not all of the programming might translate properly.
Also you would be limited as to the number of instruments and articulations you could load if Reason doesn't support disk streaming. I doubt that some of the instruments would fit into RAM!
Hope this helps,
Ben H
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Thanks Ben, Chicknsys's Translator might be right on the money.
Do you think the translator from www.chickensys.com would be able to convert the opus1 samples into NNXT programs? It looks like it can from the demo version, just wondering if anyone might have used it and found out for themselves?
:edit: after some digging I've discovered that the mac version can't do it just yet but will be able to in "the near future"
that is, will be able to convert HALion sampler packs into NNXT sample programs. Might be onto a winner if my G5 doesn't burst into flames trying to ram load all the samples I need :")Why not ReWire your Reason-arrangement to a host that supports a compatible sampler-platform?
Reason Is all I've got, all I know how to use well, and all I can afford for now. And I like it [:)]
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I wouldn't hold your breath for the new Mac version of translator......they've been on the road to version 3 for seemingly ages, and I was told that the PC version (which is way ahead of the Mac versions as I understand) was being ported over to the the Mac ages ago aswell. I bought the EXS24mkII special edition to specifically translate my Giga sample libraries to EXS.....I was hoping it would translate the 'dimensions' that the EXS did not do itself, like modulation crossfade programs. Alas, I found that it did not do that, and I've almost given up waiting for them to come out with a version that will do what they claimed their translator would do in the first place. The EXS does a much better job on it's own. They are seemingly uninterested in the Mac sample community as far as I can see. Sorry for the rant, but I was pissed off that I wasted my money almost two years ago!!....and to hear that you were told it was 'coming soon' rang a familiar bell....
As far as Reason is concerned, I think Dietz makes a good point. Converting VSL to NNXT is probably not really worth it.....your RAM will run out quickly I would think, and complicated programming is not that easy in Reason. Far better to get a 'lite' version of one of the big sequencers and use Rewire IMHO.
Regards, Andy
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I was having a look about, would it be possible to rewire rason in HALion using reason as the sequencer and HALion as the sampler?
forgive me, but I don't understand why I'd use reason to wire into another sequencer when reason's a sequencer already? Unless you mean another sequencer that acts as the sampler too and use reason to control it to convert my current works?
rewiring reason into a sampler would be ideal i'd think, can anyone recommend a sampler that offers that functionality at a reasonable price that'd let me keep using reason as my sequencer?
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@Tailus said:
I was having a look about, would it be possible to rewire rason in HALion using reason as the sequencer and HALion as the sampler?
forgive me, but I don't understand why I'd use reason to wire into another sequencer when reason's a sequencer already? Unless you mean another sequencer that acts as the sampler too and use reason to control it to convert my current works?
rewiring reason into a sampler would be ideal i'd think, can anyone recommend a sampler that offers that functionality at a reasonable price that'd let me keep using reason as my sequencer?
Actually its a limitation of Reason. At first Reason is a "synth-workstation" not a seqencer like Cubase Sx, Nuendo or Logic for example. It only has a built in "reduced to the most important functions" sequencer.
Normally you would rewire reason to Cubase ( or other Rewire capable sequencer) when you need audio, tempo changes, 3rd party plugins such as Waves, TC, Nomad ....So you would make a project file, rewire Reason, insert your Halion as a Vst'i and load OPUS 1 for example.
And as Dietz said, the NNXT does not support disk streaming. Even if you manage to convert some of VSL samples to NNXT I doubt it will function like it is supposed to.
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Is it possible to use Halion as a sampler that is played by reason or doesn't it work that way?
I'm really new to this stuff so I'm having a little bit of a hard time understanding what's possible. I've been using reason for years standalone now and have grown quite fond of it.
is there any way at all I can use reason to sequence using the VSL library, or do I need to buy a differnt sequencing package and learn all over again?
If I do end up having to buy a different sequencer, would Cubase SE and a copy of HALion be a good way to go?
I primarily write classical style music if that helps.
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If you do serious classical sequencing you'd probably do best to take the plunge into a more robust sequencer. Logic and Digital Performer for the Mac, Nuendo and Cubase for the PC (or so I've heard - I'm a Mac/DP kinda gal) lead the packs. Once you get used to using the new sequencer you'll be amazed at what you can do, and how much better everything sounds because of the degree of nuance you can program (that you simply can't in Reason). I'm not putting Reason down here - it can be an great tool for some purposes, but I really don't think it was designed to be a classical music sequencer, and I think that shows.
The good news for you is that you can use Reason within these sequencers via Rewire, so you'll still have access to the rack of equipment you're used to.
Look carefully at the programs available for your platform, and try to use them if you can before you make your purchase. Finding a friend who uses them is the best thing you could do - they can show you the ropes and answer questions. You'll hear a ton of different opinions on what's out there, but the important thing is that you get a sequencer that fits the way you work. Different people find different things to be intuitive, and that's very important when you're trying to be creative. Find the one that works best for you, how you think, and how you write.
Then make sure you have a softsampler that can handle VSL, and you're set!
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@Helen said:
If you do serious classical sequencing you'd probably do best to take the plunge into a more robust sequencer. Logic and Digital Performer for the Mac, Nuendo and Cubase for the PC (or so I've heard - I'm a Mac/DP kinda gal) lead the packs. Once you get used to using the new sequencer you'll be amazed at what you can do, and how much better everything sounds because of the degree of nuance you can program (that you simply can't in Reason). I'm not putting Reason down here - it can be an great tool for some purposes, but I really don't think it was designed to be a classical music sequencer, and I think that shows.
The good news for you is that you can use Reason within these sequencers via Rewire, so you'll still have access to the rack of equipment you're used to.
Look carefully at the programs available for your platform, and try to use them if you can before you make your purchase. Finding a friend who uses them is the best thing you could do - they can show you the ropes and answer questions. You'll hear a ton of different opinions on what's out there, but the important thing is that you get a sequencer that fits the way you work. Different people find different things to be intuitive, and that's very important when you're trying to be creative. Find the one that works best for you, how you think, and how you write.
Then make sure you have a softsampler that can handle VSL, and you're set!
Just a small point, but Nuendo and Cubase are both cross-platform.
DG
