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Last post Tue, Nov 12 2019 by Dietz, 7 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Nov 28 2017 16:30
by Arsenal
Joined on Sat, Nov 26 2016, Posts 16

In MirX there is the natural volume feature, which seems like a good starting point for realistic mixes.

Right now, as some others, I am not planning to buy MirX.

 

Would it be possible to get the correct volume levels for the VSL-products (from you guys or VSL themselves)?

(for example a list or screenshots of the instruments, e.g. Piccolo -20db)

 

Help and information greatly appreciated

Kind regards

Posted on Tue, Nov 28 2017 16:43
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11542

You got mail 

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Nov 28 2017 16:59
by Arsenal
Joined on Sat, Nov 26 2016, Posts 16

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

You got mail 

 

Thank you, very appreciated

Posted on Wed, Nov 29 2017 02:59
by Tensivity
Joined on Sun, Dec 16 2012, San Francisco California USA, Posts 272

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

You got mail 

Paul, I use the Natural Volume feature in MirPro and MirX all the time, and it's a great starting point as the OP said.  I find that for smaller ensembles the volume levels are often too low.  Would you happen to have some magic mail you could send regarding other ensemble configurations (string quartet, wind quintet, chamber strings, etc.)?  

Hoping that makes sense!

Michael

Posted on Wed, Nov 29 2017 09:21
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7306

Hi Michael,

you're right the volume is lower in case of smaller ensembles. Stating the obvious: This is because smaller ensembles exhibit a lower volume in the real world, too!  :-D

In these cases, the only "trick" you need to know is how to raise the level of all involved instruments by the same amount. In VE Pro this can be achieved by the use of "selection groups", other DAWs offer similar features for temporarily and/or permanetly linking the volumes of several tracks.

HTH,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Nov 12 2019 10:02
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 489

Originally Posted by: Dietz Go to Quoted Post
In these cases, the only "trick" you need to know is how to raise the level of all involved instruments by the same amount.

Dietz, would you suggest to raise the source dry instruments in the DAW/notation program, or the icons in MIR? Most often, my source instruments are already at 0dB, and I don't like to push them more toward the top.

I've not yet done experiments with very dense orchestral mixes. But in general I've been tempted to increase the level of the icons in MIR. I suspect this may damage the balance of the natural volume you have programmaed.

What would you suggest?

Paolo

Posted on Tue, Nov 12 2019 10:15
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 7306

As long as you keep the relative volumes intact, there's nothing hindering you from raising all instrument's volume without losing "Natural Volume" relations. (... they are meant to be seen as starting points anyway, not as the Only Truth. ;-) ...).

As long as you stay in the digital domain with 32bit floating point processing you could also simply bring up the volume of your final, if that's easier to achieve.

HTH,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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