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Last post Sun, Jul 28 2019 by Paul, 92 replies.
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Posted on Thu, Jun 27 2019 19:44
by SGordB
Joined on Wed, Mar 08 2017, Posts 9

I've crossgraded to SYNCHRON-ized SE Vol 1. Easily worth it for the Steinway D alone, but I've encountered a problem I can't solve with my limited VSL skillset. In Synchron Player, even with dynamic range set to 127, the velocity response is such that I can't achieve the kinds of ppps and pps (all the way down to ppppppp -- i.e. silent) playing the same VIs (e.g. violin 1, legato) in VI Pro or even VI standard. In other words, my performance range is kind of p to fff. I've tried adjusting everything in sight and did a search on "velocity" in the Synchron Player manual (haven't read it, though), to no avail. Am I missing something obvious? Is there a way to adjust the underlying MIDI velocity response curve? 

Posted on Thu, Jun 27 2019 20:13
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11538

Hi SGordB, 

You could automate expression (CC 11). 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Thu, Jun 27 2019 20:50
by SGordB
Joined on Wed, Mar 08 2017, Posts 9

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi SGordB, 

You could automate expression (CC 11). 

Best, 
Paul

 

D'oh! Yes. By setting velocity to control expression and setting the start of the expression curve quite a bit above zero, I can get that supple dynamic range I'm used to. Thanks, Paul! 

Posted on Thu, Jun 27 2019 23:13
by ZWaves
Joined on Mon, Dec 18 2017, Los Angeles, Ca, Posts 51

Dear VSL friends,

Some of us have been eagerly awaiting for some Cubase Expression Maps that will work with the new Synchron-ized Special Editions. The news we've been getting has been that they are in the making and they should appear soon. Well, I couldn't wait any longer and have decided to create them myself! It took a while and some really long hours crafting and testing, and finally they are here! I am making them available to anyone who wants to jump right into composing without waisting too much time.

The maps are devided into orchestral sections and also there are a couple of bundles - one for all the strings and also another one for the entire Synchron-ized SE Bundle. They are made with the PLUS user in mind, but they can be easily modified to work with the standard non-PLUS editions. Not sure how VSL official maps will be constructed, but I ended up with 108 individual expression maps covering the entire collection! Very few instruments have exact same configuration in the dimension tree and most have their unique set of articulations. VSL has done a great job of keeping the consitency! All maps that I've created are neatly labeled in the logical order in which instruments appear in the Preset tab of the Synchron Player.

I want to thank Paul for providing me with an example of what an actual Synchron based expression map may look like a few days ago, which was taken from another VSL Synchron library.

So folks, feel free to head down to my Gumroad page and grab those maps! I hope they are useful to many people!

Best to you and happy composing!

-ZWaves

https://gumroad.com/zwaves

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Special Edition Complete, SYNCHRON-ized SE Bundle, Single Instruments
Vienna Ensemble Pro, VI Pro 2, MIR Pro, MIRx Bundle
Cubase Pro, Logic Pro X, Pro Tools, Sibelius, Notion
macOS 10.12.6, Mac Pro Tower 8-Core
Posted on Sun, Jun 30 2019 16:22
by horsehead
Joined on Mon, Dec 15 2014, Posts 4

Thanks Paul.  I used the Synchorn Installer which worked fine and also reformatted the Samsung T5. Everything is flowing smoothly now. By the way, even though the the Steinway Piano maybe a lighter version, it sounds fantastic!

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi horsehead, 

Also, the Samsung T5 often comes formatted as ExFAT, which works very poorly with our data format. 

Best to reformat as macOS, then installation will work. 

Best,
Paul

Posted on Sun, Jun 30 2019 20:46
by ZWaves
Joined on Mon, Dec 18 2017, Los Angeles, Ca, Posts 51

Hi horsehead,

Glad to see things have worked out good! I bet reformatting the T5 has helped a lot! The ExFAT file structure is not very friendly for audio. The "light" Stenway D-274 is a gorgeous piano indeed! I love the sound of it and it is quickly becoming my favorite piano!

Paul,

You are spoiling us here

Special Edition Complete, SYNCHRON-ized SE Bundle, Single Instruments
Vienna Ensemble Pro, VI Pro 2, MIR Pro, MIRx Bundle
Cubase Pro, Logic Pro X, Pro Tools, Sibelius, Notion
macOS 10.12.6, Mac Pro Tower 8-Core
Posted on Mon, Jul 01 2019 00:21
by Steve Martin
Joined on Sat, Sep 17 2005, Queensland, Australia, Posts 512

Hi Paul,

just writing as I now have the Synchron S.E volume 1 as the upgrade from the VI Special Edition. Thanks for the great price!

I'm considering to get the Extra articulations for strings etc. I already had the Woodwind, and the Brass plus libraries from the VI series, however, I did not purchase the strings plus version, as I already had the full orchestral strings and I could easily add trills and other things to the VI SE matrixes.

.Is there going to be some kind of upgrade price for this is you have the Woodwind, and Brass plus libraries from the original SE plus libraries? I can guess I wouldn't get any discount for the whole of the plus librariy though, as I didn't purchase the strings.

Thank you for your help with my questions.

best,


Steve

Posted on Mon, Jul 01 2019 01:00
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11538

Hi Steve, 

You will need to complete your SE Vol 1 PLUS, then you get the crossgrade price to the SYNCHRON-ized version. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Jul 01 2019 02:47
by Steve Martin
Joined on Sat, Sep 17 2005, Queensland, Australia, Posts 512

Hi Paul,

Thank you kindly for your reply and for letting me know.

all the best,

Steve

Posted on Mon, Jul 01 2019 04:16
by Steve Martin
Joined on Sat, Sep 17 2005, Queensland, Australia, Posts 512

Hi Paul,

 

another quick question. If the SE Synchron needs 63.6 GB free hard drive space, and my hard drive with samples [vsl plus other libraries], has 171 gb out of 931 gb left. That will mean I will still have 109 gb left. Is that enough spare space on the drive?

thanks if you can estimate this for me,

 

Steve :-)

Posted on Mon, Jul 01 2019 06:42
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11538

HI Steve, 

Depends on the drive. If it's an SSD drive, then no problem. With spinning drives, 10% should also work, but COULD cause troubles. I recommend 15-20% free space on a spinning drive. 

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Jul 01 2019 07:02
by Steve Martin
Joined on Sat, Sep 17 2005, Queensland, Australia, Posts 512

Hi Paul,

 

thanks for that extra information Paul  Much appreciated!

 

 

Steve

Posted on Mon, Jul 01 2019 11:42
by JimmyHellfire
Joined on Tue, Dec 24 2013, Posts 329

Attempting to load the prepared piano from SE2 crashes the host (Cubase, or VE in standalone). Anyone else having this problem?

Posted on Mon, Jul 01 2019 11:52
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11538

Hi Jimmy, 

Which OS, which player?

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Jul 01 2019 12:03
by JimmyHellfire
Joined on Tue, Dec 24 2013, Posts 329

Hi Paul,

I'm on Win10, Synchron Player 1.1.1559. Loading the Synchron Player either as an instrument track in Cubase 10.0.30., or as a standalone inside Vienna Ensemble 6.0.18067. The prepared piano crashes both.

Posted on Mon, Jul 01 2019 12:05
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11538

Hi, 

That should work with the latest release 1.1.1621, did you check?

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Jul 01 2019 12:47
by JimmyHellfire
Joined on Tue, Dec 24 2013, Posts 329

Oh, I missed the latest Synchron Player update, sorry about that. No issues now.

Posted on Tue, Jul 02 2019 11:49
by Steve Martin
Joined on Sat, Sep 17 2005, Queensland, Australia, Posts 512

hi Paul,

 

in the new Dimension String SE versions. do the legato samples have the four layers and also the non-vibrato  and vibrato layers as well [ something I think I recall reading about -I could be wrong though]

Thanks,

 

Steve :-)

Posted on Tue, Jul 02 2019 12:12
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 11538

Hi Steve, 

Same number of velocities as in the bigger collections: 4.
There are no non-vibrato options for the SY-ized SE Dimension Strings. 

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Jul 02 2019 13:21
by Steve Martin
Joined on Sat, Sep 17 2005, Queensland, Australia, Posts 512

Hi Paul,

thanks for the information. 

best,

Steve.

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