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Posted on Mon, Mar 23 2020 22:08
by passionpunch
Joined on Wed, Oct 14 2015, Posts 6

So. I have a cMP, 2x6 core 3.33g, with 128 GB of RAM/ Everything is on an SSD (4TB of 860 qvo + dedicated 512 SSD fpr boot).

I am running VEP7 on 10.11.6

My first issue was my session not loading after seeing a converting dialouge box. I have to do a full restart, since it won't let me force quit my session and re-open VEP. Todays issue is a major CPU overload. Im talking 1,800% CPU usage for VEP in Activity Monitor, and completely garbled audio (with a 512 buffer setting in Cubase 8.5) with high 80s fluctuating up to high 90s CPU usage in VEPs bottom right indicator. I am using Kontakt 6, and Spitfires BBC plug-in. Nothing else. Most of my libraries are spitfire, but they all use Kontakt 6. It was reccomended that I take out the BBC plug and see if that fixes my issue. I'm currently only sitting at 50GB worth of samples (after taking away ~10 from BBCs instances) and my CPU useage is stuck in the high 90s. I try to add another Kontakt plug-in. And now it crashes without fail, every single time. I have no clue what the hell is going on, why its being such a hog, and why its ramping up this usage and crashing all the time. Everyhitng is up to date. I checked the compatibility and 7 should be running no problem on my version of OSX. I have my thread count set to 24 for a single instance since I just use one. My RAM is running at 1333M. I have eveeryhitng hard wired with a static IP. This is probably the 15th time Ive had to rebuild a template since everything has been so buggy. I am ready to toss this shit out of the window. If someone can please give some guidance on how to trouble shoot (I can't even add another plug in!) that would be greatful. I hope I've given all needed info. 

 

Bryan B

Tags: crash VEP7
Posted on Tue, Mar 24 2020 00:44
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2640

Hi,

In Activity Monitor what are the memory values when playing ? and crashing ?

How much ram is used ?

Can you change the preoload buffer size ?

Did you post your problem on the Spitfire Site ?

Did you try not using VEP ?

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

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Posted on Tue, Mar 24 2020 18:28
by passionpunch
Joined on Wed, Oct 14 2015, Posts 6

Hi. Thanks so much for the response. 

 

Do you mean the CPU usage numbers? Memory values don't change.

Ram used: 62.51GB by VEP and 69.91GB total usage. 

I am able to change the preload buffer size. I'm assuming you suggest increasing it? (first instrument I check is 60MB). While I am tempted to increase it for everything, I feel like I shouldnt be getting these spikes since I'm not running the most intensive library as it is? 

Just doing this now. Good idea!

I can't not use VEP. My host computer is a 2012 Mac Mini, and I am super limited on RAM. 

Posted on Tue, Mar 24 2020 19:30
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2640

Hello

Can you give me exactly your configuration

Best

Cyril

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

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Posted on Tue, Mar 31 2020 03:15
by passionpunch
Joined on Wed, Oct 14 2015, Posts 6

Sorry for the delay!

 

OSX 10.11.6

2009 MP (4,1 flashed to 5,1)

2x 3.33 GHz 6-core Intel Xeon

128GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC

2x2TB 960 QVO SSD storage for all samples through PCI + 500GB SSD for boot and software on PCI

With my template loaded but not connected to Cubase on my Mac Mini:

55.92 GB of memory used (1,609 threads)

CPU sitting at 4.3%

 Once I connect it jumps to 55-60% (512 buffer in cubase)

All systems runnig static IP through ethernet

 Hopefully thats everything!

Posted on Thu, Apr 02 2020 12:49
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2640

hello

If you connect SSD on your Macpro you are limited by the PCI II speed, you need to add a PCI III interface and connect your SSD on it , then you will obtain the full speed of your SSD.

When you connect your your MacMini to your Mac pro

you lauch something to play until you get problem

then you go in activity monitor /memory and you note and report the values in the cartridge

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Thu, Apr 02 2020 22:20
by passionpunch
Joined on Wed, Oct 14 2015, Posts 6

Yep, got my SSD's on PCI cards. 

 

So, sounds like I have to rebuild my template from scratch? Are you able to give a rough estimate of what the MP can handle for a normal system? Im pretty dissapointed I have more than half my RAM unused and I am maxing out on CPU usage. I will do what you say, but to what extent can these machines be pushed? 

 

thanks so much. 

Posted on Thu, Apr 02 2020 22:43
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2640

give me the figures of the activity monitor/memory

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Thu, Apr 02 2020 23:03
by passionpunch
Joined on Wed, Oct 14 2015, Posts 6
Posted on Fri, Apr 03 2020 01:45
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2640

I cannot see anything wrong, did you play this song before making the screen copy ?

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Sun, Apr 05 2020 03:48
by passionpunch
Joined on Wed, Oct 14 2015, Posts 6

Thanks for checking those out.

No, this is just sitting idle. If I play a few instruments at the same time I get an overload and the audio is garbled.  I was suggested to change the pre-load buffer rate. I set it to max. That brought my RAM usage to 100 GB but my CPU is pinned at 97% (which is the opposite effect that change is supposed to have?)

 

B

Posted on Sun, Apr 05 2020 05:20
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2640

If you want I continue to help you do what I have ask.

I need the figures after the overload message

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server EyeTV, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Overdrive
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
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