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Dante vs. VEPro
Last post Sun, Jan 31 2021 by dragsquares, 4 replies.
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Posted on Tue, Nov 24 2020 06:26
by dragsquares
Joined on Sat, Aug 13 2005, Los Angeles, Posts 76
Hello folks -

Doing some research into new interfaces. Lots of my favorite candidates now use Ethernet to connect to the host - Focusrite Red stuff via Dante, Avid Carbon via AVB - and I’m wondering if VEPro can coexist with Dante on a PoE switch network. (Carbon doesn’t work with a switch, so barring use of a Thunderbolt-to-Ethernet cable, it gets its own port.)

I realize that the Mac I use has two Ethernet ports, and that I could also use the Thunderbolt connection or the Avid HDX connection on the Focusrite, but I’m trying to figure out what’s possible. At the moment I’m enjoying the utility of having the second Ethernet port handling the wired internet network. I suppose the Ethernet adapter for TB could handle that as well.

I’ve heard some folks say that there is a latency improvement when using Dante with a Rednet card and network MIDI to control VEPro in standalone mode. Wondering if anyone here has experienced this. I know that you lose faster than real-time bouncing and recall, but most times these things are possible to live without.

One reason the Focusrite stuff is on the table is that it can function as a ProTools IO but also as a native DAW IO - in my case predominantly Cubase - and I wouldn’t be paying for DSP in the Carbon that I couldn’t use unless I was running ProTools. The UA is a little less, and maybe doesn’t sound as good, but lots of DSP is available - though their plugin ecosystem is fairly expensive, and many of their plugs are not suited for a real-time sequencing environment.

So I’m chewing on these points and wondering if others here have tried any of these things.
Richard F.W. Davis
Composer, Producer, Arranger

VSL, VEP, OT BS, AM/SM, CSS/CSSS, SSO, 8Dio, NI, JFK, KFC, JFC, WYD?, MTBF, TL;DR
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Posted on Fri, Jan 29 2021 22:31
by dragsquares
Joined on Sat, Aug 13 2005, Los Angeles, Posts 76

Anybody?

Richard F.W. Davis
Composer, Producer, Arranger

VSL, VEP, OT BS, AM/SM, CSS/CSSS, SSO, 8Dio, NI, JFK, KFC, JFC, WYD?, MTBF, TL;DR
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Posted on Sun, Jan 31 2021 08:47
by Steve Steele
Joined on Sun, Dec 04 2011, Posts 92

Hey Richard, 

Just curious. Are you asking if the protocols are compatible (can run at the same time), or if there is enough bandwidth to transmit both protocols bi-directionally?

Regards,
Steve Steele
https://www.stevesteele.com
Posted on Sun, Jan 31 2021 09:02
by dragsquares
Joined on Sat, Aug 13 2005, Los Angeles, Posts 76

Hi Steve -

I'm asking if anyone has compared using VEPro in server mode as the streaming IO with using it in standalone mode with, say, Network MIDI or MOL and using Dante as the IO.

Richard F.W. Davis
Composer, Producer, Arranger

VSL, VEP, OT BS, AM/SM, CSS/CSSS, SSO, 8Dio, NI, JFK, KFC, JFC, WYD?, MTBF, TL;DR
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