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Beethoven with period sampled instruments
Last post Sat, Feb 06 2021 by PaoloT, 5 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Jan 13 2021 11:00
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 1124

I know, that's a nonsense. Period instruments are used for maximum authenticity – or, at least, for what we imagine was authentic at a time. On the contrary, sampled instruments are the realm of credible inauthenticity. But, since we are simulating the real world, why can't we simulate a simulated real world?

So, I didn't felt ashamed when I tried to make Beethoven with sampled period instrument. What I did was to reduce the members of the strings family (via Dimension Strings, in a 44443 setup). Then, the obvious Natural Horns and Trumpets from the Historical Winds collection.

I didn't have Classic-era (around 1800) woodwinds, so I used what I had. The Transverse Flute is not the equivalent of the bigger, deeper and meatier flute of that era. Yet, it's probably better to give an idea of 'past' than the modern metal flute, and all considered it was not yet the fast-evolving flute of the 30s. The Baroque Oboe should be a bit better, since the difference in sound with the Classic Oboe shouldn't be too much.

No Classic Clarinet in my arsenal, nor a Classic Bassoon. The clarinet was harsher than the modern one, but not too dissimilar. I have no clear idea about the evolution of the bassoon. I have a Baroque Bassoon from Chris Hein, but I feel that the instrument was, in the beginning of the 19th century, sounding more like a modern than an earlier one.

In any case, a new chapter to the Historic Winds collection, including Classic-era instruments, would be great.

So, does it work?

Beethoven - Eroica with sampled period instruments


Posted on Wed, Jan 13 2021 16:27
by FRG
Joined on Thu, Dec 04 2014, Posts 38

Fantastic, great job.

Perhaps I missed hearing a more pronounced dynamic with major accents at minute 2:13.

But it's just a trifle, to say the least.


Posted on Wed, Jan 13 2021 18:17
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 1124

FRG, thank you for listening and for the hint about dynamics. I'll take care of it in the ongoing revision!


Posted on Sat, Feb 06 2021 18:19
by Jos Wylin
Joined on Mon, Dec 03 2012, Belgium, Posts 665

Hi Paolo,

Great job and very well performed. More than credible! If you look for a baroque sounding bassoon, the VSL bassoon 2 can come very close (with a little filtering).

Thanks for sharing,


Posted on Sat, Feb 06 2021 23:33
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 1124

Jos, thank you for the hint! I also own the baroque bassoon from another developer (CH). So, maybe I can try mixing VSL Bassoon 2 (modern) with that one (baroque) to see if the can meet in the classic-time halfway!


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