Hello Cyril,

Originally Posted by: Cyril Blanc

Hello

1) I could not find the "guess" function that is in MIR PRO ; it's a long work to set all VSL instrument

Please see the attached screenshot where to find the "Guess"-function. Note that this is a feature that will work within Vienna Ensemble / Pro exclusively.

Interesting idea, but due to the fact that Vienna Symphonic Library has yet to transform into Vienna Bigband Library ;-), I assume that this won't happen in the foreseeable future. 

I think that's the one you're looking for:

-> https://youtu.be/jFhZcvGXdDU

I beg your pardon ...? 8-/ Sorry, but I don't understand the question.

Roles can include Character EQs, but they don't have to. In fact all factory presets a.k.a. "Vienna Standards" (a.k.a. "MIRx Settings") there is a suggested Character EQ for the respective Venue Preset it comes with. OTOH you can save your own custom-designed Roles without Character EQs. 

If you plan to add your own EQ settings I suggest not to use Characters, to avoid over-processing.

Again - I'm not sure that I understand the question, sorry. Please rephrase ...

Hard to judge from the distance, without any audio examples. Might be a question of composition, arrangement, programming / performance or mixing. Or are you talking about GUI-handling rather than the resulting audio output ....?

Kind regards,

File Attachment(s):

GuessVIProfile.png (719kb) downloaded 3 time(s).

You cannot view/download attachments. Try to login or register.

You like to keep us busy over the weekends, don't you? ;-)

Originally Posted by: Cyril Blanc

Since I have discover that with instruments in Logic you have not the problem of Logic using one or two core if you use VI and synchron instrument and that VE is causing more load on the CPU ; I have decide to use VSL instrument IN Logic.

It will be great if you could add the "Guess" function when using MIR PRO 3D instruments in Logic..

That would be great, yes. As soon as Apple allows VSL to implement the code in Logic that allows MIR 3D to "talk" directly with Vienna Instruments plug-ins in the same track we will be able to do this. ... I wouldn't hold my breath, though. 

It's not a "policy". Vienna Instruments and Synchron Instruments rely on very different approaches. Allow me to bring in a comparison: The former can be seen as a collection of finest raw cooking ingredients which will enable the cook to create great dishes according to his/her own taste and needs. The latter is a luxury chef's menu you can buy ready-made - you just have to put it in the oven. 

In other words: Synchron instrument's paradigm baked-in panning and reverb does not match the approach of MIR, which was invented to cover exactly these aspects. 

If you think that you bought the wrong product please get in contact with . Quoting the FAQ: 

Unlike many other sample library developers, we offer a "No Hassle" return policy.

• If you're not satisfied with your purchase at the VSL web shop, for any reason, you may return it for a refund or an in-house credit, within 14 days from the day of purchase.
• Please get in touch with our sales team, we will walk you through the process.

No, just don't put them into MIR.

Like I wrote above - they are different product lines with different use cases.

Let me google that for you: 

-> https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Vienna_Software_Package/MIR_Pro_3D#!MIR_Stories

Hey, Alan is a sound engineer - his mic is _supposed_ to sound bad. ;-D Maybe we should ask him to talk more slowly next time. 

There are several videos available on MIR 3D's sub-page of VSL's web-site, and of course there's always MIR 3D's online manual (... the manual of legacy MIR Pro has a nice tutorial-section, too).

Hope that helps.

Originally Posted by: Cyril Blanc

[...]I don't understand your answer, Logic store all the instrument characteristic and send them to MIR when you load your song ; MIR send them back to Logic if you adjust there characteristic in MIR, why can't you send the "role" of the instrument when you fill the venue for the first time.

In Logic (and every other conventional host) here is no data connection between Vienna Instruments and MIR 3D other than the audio stream. No way to make MIR aware of the meta-data that would make the "guessing" of the profile possible. VE Pro _has_ this additional connection, though.

Synchron Instruments rely on samples recorded directly at Synchron Stage Vienna, using multiple microphones in different distances, with "burnt-in" panning and reverb), while the so-called Synchron-IZED Instruments use samples originally recorded at Silent Stage for Vienna Instrument plus individual, hand-crafted impulse responses and panning information for them.

There are dedicated Mixer Presets for them in Synchron Player called "99 MIR Unprocessed" which brings Synchron-ized instruments back to their original, unprocessed state. Use _this_ setting when you plan to put a Synchron-ized source into MIR 3D.

.... here's a comparison of all VSL sample-based products:

-> https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Products

HTH,

Originally Posted by: Cyril Blanc

I am waiting for and answer from support on how to change venue to test the deferent venues.

Doesn't the Venue Selection in MIR 3D's main GUI work for you? (.... #7 in this screenshot). This should open the Venue Selection window (see this screenshot in the manual).

Well - actually MIR is always working _within_ the host. The small plug-in you put in the track is doing all the processing tasks. It's just that all plug-ins share a common main GUI, but that's completely independent from the host. In any case - MIR "knows" nothing about other plug-ins in Logic's channel.

If I intend to put it into MIR, then the answer is "yes".

Sorry - that's not my area of expertise. Thanks for your understanding!

Kind regards,