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Hello everybody,
As promised in our Silicone Announcement Video, our Synchron Pianos Player is now available as a Native Silicon version and waiting for you in your Vienna Assistant (click Refresh, if necessary)!
Enjoy and stay tuned for more improvements!
Best.
Paul Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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Wonderful! Downloading it now. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks VSL team.
God Bless,
David
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So far so good. No spikes in the CPU meter. 5 mics, latency @ 64, pedal down, glissandos up and down the keys and I still can't get my CPU load to 100% on my Mac mini Pro M2 (32GB ram).
This was not possible with the non-silicon Synchron Piano player.
Just for fun I turned on all the mics in the full library (F308) and was able to play without pops/crackles and was only able to reach 100% load with pedal down glissandos. And it still was playable at 100% load.
Pretty awesome!
One thing I noticed was that the 32 latency setting is not available (defaults to 512 when selected). I normally play at 64, but I was curious how it would perform at 32.
God Bless,
David
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Latency @ 32 is available for me (same machine spec). What audio interface are you using? Maybe that is what is limiting you.
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Originally Posted by: dbudde 
Latency @ 32 is available for me (same machine spec). What audio interface are you using? Maybe that is what is limiting you.
Doesn't work with anything. Mac core audio, Yamaha N1X audio interface, or Scarlett 2i2. Whenever I select 32 it defaults to 512.
God Bless,
David
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It does default to 512 if you relaunch the program, but 32 is available? Just reset it after launch.
Also, if you use it as a plugin in Logic or MainStage the latency preferences stick.
Edit: You're right it defaults differently for 32 in the stand alone player. But it works as expected in a sequencer.
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great, thank you! Looking forward for the other synchron players.
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Great, thanks! I was waiting for this.
Is there any new 30 days demo period upcoming for the synchron pianos?
I'm new to these pianos and wanted to test them back in 2022 when you had the last demo period, but couldn't really because the performance on my M1 Max Macbook was not there, pops and spikes.
Michael
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Hi Michael,
I'm afraid we are not offering demo licenses for the big Synchron Pianos right now.
But we offer a 14 -day return policy when you purchase in our webshop, so you will be safe there!
Best,
Paul Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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I would like to know some performance data with this new release.
In particular, I'm considering switching from my beefy PC to something lighter like a Mac Mini or MacBook.
I'm interested in the basics: live performance with no pops, no crackles, and round-trip latency below 40ms with 6 or 7 mics.
I'm getting 60ms of actual measured round-trip latency with no dedicated audio interface! So the bar is not set extremely high. (Planning on setting up a dedicated RME HDSPe aiming at <20ms).
Anyone ready to provide some round-trip latencies with many mics? I would appreciate.
Best regards.
Input: Yamaha U3 SH2 (silent piano with MIDI output)
Libraries: Synchron Pianos Yamaha CFX Full, D274 full.
PC Specs: RME HDSPe AIO, Asus Z590E, Intel i9 11900KF @5 GHz, 64GB RAM DDR4 @3600 MHz
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Originally Posted by: Rafa Ferreira
I'm interested in the basics: live performance with no pops, no crackles, and round-trip latency below 40ms with 6 or 7 mics..
Logic Pro says I'm at 9.5ms roundtrip (at 64 latency). It doesn't matter if I'm using 5 or 10 mics. My Mac mini M2 laughs and says, "is that all you got?"
Synchron Pianos really works awesome with with Apple silicon. It was worth the wait. Thanks again to VSL for making our dreams come true. π
God Bless,
David
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Silicon Native does not show up in Vienna Assistant. I'm updated and do not see it in my 'not installed' list. Plus my license for Synchron Concert D-274 no longer shows in the i-Lok license manager.
I've been using the product for almost a year, what happened to it?
Found the license, still wondering about Silicon Native and why I can't connect to that as it is not in Vienna Assistant. Cubase 12, Windows 10 Installed on β4/β11/β2022
OS build 19044.1645, VE Pro (build 7.2.1481) Vienna Instruments Pro 2.0 (v 2.6.110) Universal Audio Apollo Twin, M-Audio Oxygen 88 keyboard controller, USB connection, NVIDA GeForce GTX 1600 Ti Display adapter, Intel i7-8700K CPU @3.70 GHz, 32 GB RAM Total Physical Memory
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Does this mean the PC platform is eventually going to be dropped by VSL? Cubase 12, Windows 10 Installed on β4/β11/β2022
OS build 19044.1645, VE Pro (build 7.2.1481) Vienna Instruments Pro 2.0 (v 2.6.110) Universal Audio Apollo Twin, M-Audio Oxygen 88 keyboard controller, USB connection, NVIDA GeForce GTX 1600 Ti Display adapter, Intel i7-8700K CPU @3.70 GHz, 32 GB RAM Total Physical Memory
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Hello Raymonde,
You should see the Synchron Pianos Software Update in your Vienna Assistant.
If that's not the case, please send us a screenshot of your Vienna Assistant, so we can check what's going on! The Synchron Pianos Software is available in the first section called "Sample Players".
Also which OS are you working on?
Best,
Paul Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
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Is it a bug that I canβt use 32 buffer size in a standalone player on Apple silicon?
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The latest update (1.3.395), installed today on my MacBook Pro 14'' M1 Max is broken...
The CPU spikes are back on most presets. I did a restart and fiddled around with settings, no help.
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I think I've found the culprit: It's the built in Reverb. If I switch it off the spikes are gone.
Anyone can confirm that this is an issue with the newest Apple Standalone player (on Arm, M1)?
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OK, found the rollback feature in the Vienna Assistant and went back to the version immediately before the latest. And, tata, CPU spikes are gone.
So something's wrong with the most current version, at least on my system (MacBook Pro 14'', M1 Max, Monetery 12.6.5).
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Edit - Thanks so much!
Roll Back to previous version 368 and the glitches go away!
MacBook Pro 2.3 GHz i5, 16GB 2017 with Big Sur 11.7.7
Kudos that the rollback feature is there and straighforward. I was looking all over for other issues.
Steve
Thanks so much for the heads up. I think I have the same issue - suddenly struggling with random spikes,
and was always rock solid at 64 samples before on OSX Big Sur 11.7.7.
I was searching through to see if caused by antivirus or security, but that off didn't seem to help.
Much more random behavior than you show.
I think this was true for both D-274 and Yamaha CFX.
I am also using Build 395 and will roll back to 368 and see if that fixes it, along with checking the reverb.
Thanks again.
Steve
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Happy to report that the CPU spikes are gone with the new 1.3.407 version, Thanks VSL!
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