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Vienna Symphonic Library and GPU Audio Announce Collaboration
Last post Fri, Aug 25 2023 by Dietz, 14 replies.
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Posted on Fri, Apr 14 2023 09:26
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8329

Great news, especially for MIR 3D! :-) We are excited to announce a brand new collaboration with GPU Audio who are making waves in the audio technology field, processing high fidelity, ultra low latency audio using graphics cards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3xcq_m3Llw

https://www.vsl.co.at/en/MIR_Pro_3D#!GPU_Audio

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Apr 14 2023 16:07
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 555


Das es diese Kooperation mit VSL und anderen erlesenen Herstellern geben wird, war vor ein paar Wochen bereits auf Sonicstate nachzulesen. Ein wenig ernüchternd finde ich jedoch, dass es sich bei dem Projekt um Vienna MIR handelt. So ist die Performance auch ohne GPU Audio bereits gut. Ich dachte eher, dass die VSL exzessiv die Time Stretching Performance des SY Players auslagert (also den Rendering Prozess). Das wäre viel nötiger als MIR. Daher ein wenig schade!

 

Edit: Andererseits fällt mir ein, dass es dein heiligstes aller Vorhaben war, die Icons sich  „live“ bewegen, tanzen und springen zu lassen. Das ist natürlich dann realisierbar. Insofern: Glückwunsch hierfür!

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The fact that there will be this cooperation with VSL and other exquisite manufacturers could already be read on Sonicstate a few weeks ago. However, I find it a little sobering that the project is Vienna MIR. The performance is already good even without GPU audio. I rather thought that VSL excessively outsources the time stretching performance of the SY player (i.e. the rendering process). That would be much more necessary than MIR. A bit of a pity, therefore!

 

Edit: On the other hand, it occurs to me that your most sacred of all intentions was to have the icons move, dance and jump "live". That is of course feasible then. In this respect, congratulations!

 

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator

Windows 11, Cubase 12

Posted on Fri, Apr 14 2023 16:41
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8329

No need to complain, I wrote "especially for MIR 3D", not "exclusively". ;-) MIR 3D just happens to be the obvious first step in this development.

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Fri, Apr 14 2023 18:08
by DaveJ
Joined on Fri, May 25 2012, Posts 77

Hi Dietz, 

This is great news, at the end of the video with Paul it says "coming soon". Does that mean in the next few months or will it take longer than a year. The reason I ask is I would like to upgrade my video card but I want to purchase something that will be compatible with this new technology. Would something like a gtx 1650 suffice?

I am assuming you must be beta testing some this now, if not I will wait to get a new video card when more info  is available.

 

Dave

Posted on Fri, Apr 14 2023 18:14
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8329

This is brand-new stuff for us, too. We'll let you know as soon as we have reliable facts and figures to offer! 

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Apr 15 2023 01:11
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2900

Will those card will be available for Mac and PC users ?

MacBook Pro 2019 16" 64gb 4TB + 2 x Odisseey G9 49"

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd

Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 + S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro
Synth : many....
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Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO 3D, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind, Brass, Percussion Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs, Many Sychron Instruments

Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 3, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa, Kinetic libs, EW libs

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Posted on Sat, Apr 15 2023 08:41
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8329

Originally Posted by: Cyril Blanc Go to Quoted Post

Will those card will be available for Mac and PC users ?

Well ... Unix won't help a lot! ;-D

-> https://www.gpu.audio/early-access

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Apr 15 2023 19:35
by Louis C
Joined on Fri, Sep 22 2017, Posts 73

I'm wondering if I've understood the implication of this correctly.

It looks as though MIR Pro's rendering time will be sub 2 ms or less than 88 samples at 44.1khz.

This would in effect mean even playing percussion in realtime with instruments inside a MIRPro room should be possible ?

It's pretty good now - but appears to be about to take a huge step forward in terms of performance ?

Posted on Sun, Apr 16 2023 11:54
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8329

You're spot-on. :-)

Please don't mistake the following lines as announcement, they are just expressing my own expectations: I hope that we will be able to keep MIR's own buffer size at 0 and the system latency at really low values without sacrificing the number of instances and/or channels (3D!) per instance, while freeing up the CPU for other tasks such as sample players, other plug-ins, and so on.

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, Apr 16 2023 20:24
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2900

Mir is performing well except when it is crashing because Ilok is not reliable.

Today I was working and suddenly I had a message (see attached)

Logic and MIR went in a dead loop

The solution if that is happening is to FORCE QUIT MIR so you can save your work in Logic

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MacBook Pro 2019 16" 64gb 4TB + 2 x Odisseey G9 49"

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd

Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 + S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO 3D, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind, Brass, Percussion Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs, Many Sychron Instruments

Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 3, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa, Kinetic libs, EW libs

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Posted on Mon, Apr 17 2023 08:30
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8329

Hi Cyril,

sorry to hear that you are having problems with your iLok Cloud - it could well be that your internet connection was faulty. But in any case - please do us and yourself a favour and don't post such reports in announcement thread on a completely different topic. Would make more sense to report to VSL support directly.

Thanks for your understanding!

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Mon, Apr 17 2023 08:45
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2900

HI Dietz

As I said I am very happy with MIR PRO 3D and I looking forward for more information about the GPU Audo

In casse of dead loop I was giving the trick to other user so they do loose there work as I almost loose my work.

Having force quit MIR allowed Logic to comme out of the dead loop so I could save my work 

The solution if that is happening is to FORCE QUIT MIR so you can save your work in Logic

I have a fibber connection, the problem maybe on Ilok servers ?

Support is "au courant" that there are problems with Ilok

Best regards

Cyril

MacBook Pro 2019 16" 64gb 4TB + 2 x Odisseey G9 49"

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd

Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 + S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro
Synth : many....
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO 3D, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind, Brass, Percussion Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series, Many Synchronised libs, Many Sychron Instruments

Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 3, Art Conductor, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa, Kinetic libs, EW libs

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Fri, Aug 25 2023 20:35
by Louis C
Joined on Fri, Sep 22 2017, Posts 73

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFpCbT3Rx4Y

 

Whilst the M1 + M2 Max and Ultra chips might provide no benefit to the user at the moment I presume this is the ideal chip for MIR when it gets the AudioGPU upgrade ... ... ?

Posted on Fri, Aug 25 2023 22:46
by Dietz
Joined on Tue, Aug 06 2002, Vienna / Europe, Posts 8329

I don't have much more insight into these developments yet than any other user. I assume that VSL's developers have more info, but for the time being, it's actually advisable to ask hardware-specific questions directly at GPU Audio, as it's their underlying technology. 

Kind regards,

/Dietz - Vienna Symphonic Library
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