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  • Chamber Strigs Upgrade?

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    Do we already know upgrade proces for single libraries?
    Like upgrading from Chamber Strings to the VSTI version?
    If I get it right, there's gonna be smaller version of the Chamber Strings VSTI and a lager version.
    Does the smaller version include the same samples as the current version and the bigger VSTI version contains more, or or the small VST version snaller than the current Chamber Strings version?

    tele
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    @Another User said:

    Each of the 10 Collections comes with the Software Instrument, Standard Library, and Extended Library on DVD. For each Collection’s Standard Price, which is the same for all existing as well as new customers, you get the software instrument (ie., the audio engine with its user interface) and the Standard Library. You can also test the already included Extended Library for a period of 30 days.

    Registered users of our original Symphonic Edition and Horizon Series sample libraries will be granted extensive discounts to unlock the Extended Library of the Vienna Instrument. The price of a Collection’s Extended Library depends on how many single instruments a user is unlocking and how many of our sample libraries he or she has registered. For example, a user of the Horizon Series Solo Strings will be able to purchase the complete 38 GB of the Vienna Instrument Solo Strings Extended Library for a handling fee of only EUR30/$35!

    You can instantly unlock your Extended Libraries wholly or in part at our web shop. Simply log on, select the desired Instrument or Collection, and pay with your credit card. The Extended Library will be unlocked immediately. Please compare the articulations included in the Standard and Extended Libraries using the button “Standard/Extended Libraries” at each Collection’s page in our web shop.


    I guess that means no upgrade from Chamber Strings to the new VST standard collection?
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    Weird, could have been more detailled on the web site
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    The Upgrades from the Horizon Series to the Vienna Instruments are only available if they are to the benefit of the user.
    If you own Chamber Strings of the Horizon Series, you will have to pay the full price of the standard collection, but to extend your content you already have with your sample library you should upgrade to the standard AND the extended content. The extended content will cost you EUR 30 only. So why bother purchasing the standard content only?

    So everybody pays the standard library, but Upgraders get amazing prices for the extended content.
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    @Anna Watson said:

    So everybody pays the standard library, but Upgraders get amazing prices for the extended content.


    One can upgrade to the extended content only?

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    should I buy the standard edition at full price and then I can upgrade to the extended content for 30 euro?
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    No you can't upgrade to the extended content only. Everybody has to purchase the standard library, new customers and Upgraders, but Upgraders get far more content for very little more money.
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    @Anna Watson said:

    No you can't upgrade to the extended content only. Everybody has to purchase the standard library, new customers and Upgraders, but Upgraders get far more content for very little more money.


    I got it now.

    [I]
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    @Anna Watson said:

    The Upgrades from the Horizon Series to the Vienna Instruments are only available if they are to the benefit of the user.
    If you own Chamber Strings of the Horizon Series, you will have to pay the full price of the standard collection, but to extend your content you already have with your sample library you should upgrade to the standard AND the extended content. The extended content will cost you EUR 30 only. So why bother purchasing the standard content only?

    So everybody pays the standard library, but Upgraders get amazing prices for the extended content.


    O, guess I got it now. [:D]
    The standard library has less samples than the current VSL Chamber Strings Horizon library. So an upgrade doesn't make too much sense. [;)]

    Actually, for the new customers it is a good thing to have 2 versions of Chamber Strings to start with.

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    @Another User said:

    O, guess I got it now. [:D]
    The standard library has less samples than the current VSL Chamber Strings Horizon library. So an upgrade doesn't make too much sense. [[;)]]

    Actually, for the new customers it is a good thing to have 2 versions of Chamber Strings to start with.

    tele


    You can see through our plan. We want to have new customers!! [[[;)]]]
    And offer them something great to start with
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    @Another User said:

    O, guess I got it now. [:D]
    The standard library has less samples than the current VSL Chamber Strings Horizon library. So an upgrade doesn't make too much sense. [[[;)]]]

    Actually, for the new customers it is a good thing to have 2 versions of Chamber Strings to start with.

    tele


    You can see through our plan. We want to have new customers!! [[[[;)]]]]
    And offer them something great to start with

    To be honest, you lost me as a customer, now.
    I don't need extended samples, I'm just a hobby musician who was willing to spend 800 Euros for Chamber Strings. But the VSL upgrade plan is too much for my purposes.
    If I could get just an upgrade to the Chamber Strings Standard Edition for 50% off, that would be in my range of thinking. I don't need an increased choice of samples, but I surely would love to have the engine. I'd even give back the one's I have to get the Standard edition with the new engine. [:)] Make me an offer [[[;)]]]

    tele
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    Dear tele,

    I am sorry we can only offer Upgrades and no Downgrades. Going from Chamber Strings Horizon to Chamber Strings Vienna Instrument Standard would be more like a Downgrade as it includes less samples.

    Regards, Anna
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    @Anna Watson said:

    Dear tele,

    I am sorry we can only offer Upgrades and no Downgrades. Going from Chamber Strings Horizon to Chamber Strings Vienna Instrument Standard would be more like a Downgrade as it includes less samples.

    Regards, Anna




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    This is of course just content wise (number o samples) You get a lot of the new articulations with the Standard Content PLUS (and that is the coolest part) the Vienna Instruments, which will really change your aproach on how to play a virtual instrument on your keyboard. So you do get additional new samples, and you still have all the samples you already own.

    So you can definitely dry your tears, it will all be good!

    Best, Paul
    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    @Paul said:

    ...the Vienna Instruments, which will really change your aproach on how to play a virtual instrument on your keyboard....So you can definitely dry your tears, it will all be good!

    Best, Paul


    Paul, can I jump in here.

    I use Sibelius notation software and not a keyboard to generate my performances.

    Can you confirm that people like me will be able to generate all the control commands in the VI using midi instructions inserted in a Sibelius Score.

    Many thanks
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    Hi, MIDI stays MIDI, and the Vienna Instruments rely on MIDI, and AFAIK Sibelius has no restrictions here.

    So: Yes!
    Paul Kopf Product Manager VSL
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    I'm sure that once VI is up and running the Sibelius plug-ins that control this sort of MIDI data will start to be written.

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    @Paul said:

    This is of course just content wise (number o samples) You get a lot of the new articulations with the Standard Content PLUS (and that is the coolest part) the Vienna Instruments, which will really change your aproach on how to play a virtual instrument on your keyboard. So you do get additional new samples, and you still have all the samples you already own.

    So you can definitely dry your tears, it will all be good!

    Best, Paul


    Hey, Paul. Thanks for trying to comfort me.
    What I'm really missing is an upgrade comparable to, let's say Halion 2 to Halion 3 or maybe like Kontakt to Kontakt2. Your Upgrade offer is more like a Cubase SL to Cubase SX step. No choice for me to stay on the SL Level, and have the latest version.
    An upgrade that lets me stay on about the same amount of samples, but gives me the new engine would be what I need. Unfortunately this is not part of your upgrade program.

    As a hobby musician, I can justify 200 or 250 Euros to my family for an engine upgrade, but I can't justify another over 500 Euros just for my personal fun.
    Well I guess, I am not your common target customer.

    Therefore I will go on crying. [:'(]

    tele
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    I was very interested in buying the chamber strings one month ago but now I'm confused :all these versions of the same product are very confusing indeed.
    The cost of the "old" library was 800 $ and for the price the "fast reps" for example,were available.

    Now if I want to get them (correct me if I'm wrong), I have to buy the standard + extended = full library ? That means that you force people to buy the full library to get articulations that were available with the old library.

    I already guess your answer : there are new features and brand new samples in the full library, but the fact is that for Christmas I expected a discount on the 800 $ library (a lot of money for me) and now if I want to get the articulations I need, I have to spend 1300 bucks (discount included !), something I can't afford and I think a lot of people is in the same case : whose people are these libraries made for ?

    Please tell me if I'm wrong and if it's still possible to get all the articulations of the old version for less than 800 $
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    you can get the current version with 35% discount, that about €500
    the full price for the standard version will be about €500.
    As an owner of the Horizon version, which you can get for 35% less, you'll get the upgrade to the extended version for €30.

    makes a sum of slightly above 1000, not 1300 (in Euros, that is)

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    @tele said:

    you can get the current version with 35% discount, that about €500
    the full price for the standard version will be about €500.
    As an owner of the Horizon version, which you can get for 35% less, you'll get the upgrade to the extended version for €30.

    makes a sum of slightly above 1000, not 1300 (in Euros, that is)

    tele


    Thank you, I thougt that the Horizon version was discontinued, $ 582 is still expensive but much more affordable : it's so confusing to keep in mind all these versions of an existing product.

    The price and the amount of computers required to run these libraries is truly unbelievable : only studios or busy pros can afford that I assume.

    I remember some years ago : the Vitous lib was so expensive that it was inconceivable for me to get it , now the entire lib is sold for $ 200 !