Hello All,

I was working with Dimension strings (VI version) and noticed that when using the Force A perf-trill-leg the first note doesn't sound.  If you repeat the note it will play unless you wait 1 second. Also if you connect another different note you will hear the transition from the first note to the second note, but still no first note.

The other trill patches all work as intended.  Any ideas or fixes?

Thanks!  Happy Composing!!

---The Blogospherianman

I’m getting a ton (80 or so) eliscenser errors when scanning in Cakewalk by Bandlab on my Windows 10 computer during the scanning of VSL synchron as well as the Vienna Suite. Any ideas?

Thank you kindly for your concern and help! I've been a long time supporter and advocate for VSL. You all are truly the best at what you do and how you serve the orchestrators of this big blue world!

I'm fully aware of how the Dynamic Range slider works as I have relied on it for years now. It's certainly behaving differently in Synchron Player than it did in Vienna Instruments Pro.

I did a real Quick test in both players and give approximated averages of the db meter readings in each player. Synchron player I just read the left side. Again real quick just to illistrate my point.

Here are my findings:

In VI pro using Appassionatta All strings Sus pressing the C4 note
Dynamic range :0 Vel Xfade:0 = -9. , Vel Xfade:63= -9 , Vel Xfade:127 = -9
Dynamic range :63. Vel Xfade :0 =-33. VelXfade : 63 = -19 VelXfade :127 = -9
Dynamic Range:127 VelXfade:0 =inf VelXfade: 63= -21 VelXfade 127 = -9

This is working as expected. A dynamic range value of 0 , all sample are playing at the same dynamic volume. At a dynamic range of 127, the Softest volume is actually silence and the Loudest volume is the loudest.

In Synchron Player using Appassionatta strings Synchronized pressing the C4 note
Dynamic Range :0. VelXfade:0 =-21 VelXfade: 63 = -14 VelXfade: 127 = -10
dynamic range. : 63 VelXfade:0 = -21 VelXfade: 63 =-14 VelXfade: 127 = -10
dynamic range. : 127 VelXfade:0 = -28 VelXfade:63 = -14 VelXfade: 127 = -10

These numbers indicate that something is wrong with the Dynamic Range Scaler in Synchron player.

In Vi pro using Synchron Srtings In VI version using STR MAIN LONG-Lyc pressing C4
Dynamic range:0 VelXfade:0 = -25 VelXfade: 63 = -17 VelXfade: 127 = -12
Dynamic Range: 63 VelXfade:0 = -32 VelXfade: 63 = -20 VelXfade: 127 = -12
Dynamic Range: 127 VelXfade:0 = -inf VelXfade: 63 = -34 VelXfade: 127 = -12

Synchron strings in VI are a lil off at Dynamic range of '0' in that the velocities dbs aren't the same. However at a dynamic range of 127 the VelXfade level of '0' does go to silence as expected.

In Synchron player using Synchron strings STR MAIN LONG-lyric pressing C4

Dynamic Range:0 VelXfade:0 = -29 VelXfade: 63 = -18 VelXfade 127 =-17
Dynamic Range : 63 VelXfade = -29 VelXfade: 63 = -19 VelXfade 127 = -18
Dynamic range :127 VelXfade 0 = -39 VelXfade 063 = -28 VelXfade 127 = -20

Doesn't appear to be working correctly. Very little difference between Dynamic Range 0 or 63. Dynamic Range of 127 doesn't go to silence at VelXfade 0. Also in Dynamic Range of 127 the loudest note is 3 db softer than in dynamic range of 0. So even thiugh it's softest level is 10 dbs softer than the softest level of Dynamic Range of 0, the loudest is 3 db softer thereby only adding 7 dbs of Dynamic range.

Based on my findings looking at how VI instruments pro is handling Dynamic Range vs how Synchron Player is handling it, they are very different. I much prefer VI's ability to drop to complete silence when set to 127. I also prefer how it defaults to 63 being where it was recorded at.

Hope this helps you see where I'm coming from.


----Blogospherianman

While the updates to Appassionatta are nice, (separate 2nd Violins as well as vibrato control) I have to agree that the non-functioning Dynamic range slider is a bummer. VI Pro has spoiled me to using the Dynamic range slider to be able to adjust for the appropriate range. Expression works, but if I'm sketching a full section with both hands it's MUCH more convienient to set the dynamic range ahead of time and use 1 foot pedal for the velocity control instead of 1 pedal for velocity and a separate pedal for expression to compensate for the lack of dynamic range.

I would like to have various size football feilds (high school, college, pro stadiums,) and perhaps basketball gyms and stadiums in order to re-create marching bands and school bands, or rock band at a stadium. Would be Really Cool to be able to animate all of the Marching band movements into a reallistic Audio rendering. 😄

I do realize there aren't any all in one strings with legato like Appasionatta etc, however with Appasionatta's all in one String patch there are no empty slots in the matrices. So with the Synchron all in one string patch having empty slots, it felt as if something would fill those slots when the collection was completed. Furthermore a legato all in one patch is well within the capabilities of such a fine team as Vienna. I do use the legatos in separated sections for the realism and independence of parts, but the empty slots were confusing.

Btw. - Great job Vienna!! The Synchron Strings sound Amazing!! Really love the Dynamic range! Great attention to detail. Very expressive!

I'm seeing the same thing. When I load the all in one Strings patches, the legatos are still missing from matrices. Empty slots.... I even deleted the old ones before installing the new ones to make sure there wasn't any confusion. They are all there if I load each individual section, just not the all in one.

Sounds like you need to un-check 'Zero controllers when play stops'. Can't remember where that is in 8.53, but in Sonar X1 it's under Preferences, Project, Midi... When you stop it'll zero all controllers like the CC used to switch articulations.

http://www.miroc.co.jp/r...t/namm-2018-day2-vienna/

Love the new Colorful look of the Synchron Player!!! Finally found a video from Namm!! Yaay I'm excited now!!! Great job VSL! Can't wait to see and hear more!

I tried to wire the money for the film competition registration, but my bank can't wire money without the physical address.  I gave all of the info from the website, but they said they couldn't send without the physical address.  Any ideas? Thanks!

Seems to be working fine now. Happened after I had changed position of the low brass ensemble from right back to center back then bounced the track in sonar. I wanted to undo my newly bounced position back to the original. That's when undo didn't put them back. Working now though! :) Thanks Dietz!  Really Appreciate all of yalls hard work! MIR is a dream to work with!

I'm having a new issue of VEP not undoing a placement change on the stage. MIRx mode is not enabled. Any Suggestions. Normally undo will move instrument back... Thanks!

Don't worry about routing the second instance back in.  Simply choose the same room and mic position for each instance, and try not to place instruments where you've already placed them, unless that's the sound you need.

Yes, I do it all the time in Sonar as well. Not uncommon to use a 1 for strings, 1 for brass, perc, and even other stuff like accoustic. Sometimes i bounce each 1 seperately for automating in sonar. 1st violins, seconds, violas , cellos, bass's etc.  other times I just bounce the groups.  Either freeze, or bounce to track.  If you bounce to track, disconnect the synth when you're done to free up resources. Happy orchestrating!

Now that I use the Ipad to control Vienna Ins, I've changed keyswitching to cc 12 and use the Ipad to switch. Now all samples play correctly no matter where I start. 

Same here, now close the program before bed since it doesn't play nice in the mornin if I leave it open.

just set up matrix for normal voicing,  a matrix for each of your preferred auto voicings. Then, assign each matrix a keyswitch. Or a new row of cells with the same patches but with different auto-voice settings.  Dimension brass is set up this way and makes perfect sense.

That's how I do it. Matrix one for normal all players, matrix 2 for split to two notes, Matrix 3 for split to three notes. etc. I do wish we could Save our favorite auto-voice setups in the auoto voice menu where it says factory setups. ;) Love the auto voicing!! Makes the groups so flexible in their sound.

Yaay! Thanks a million, Herb! You guys are truly an amazing team!

Loaded All Violins Regular L2 Art-combo, switched to the Perf-Trill Marc, played 16 th notes on 1 note at loudest velocity layer. Expect to hear all notes, Actually hear the first three, then fourth note is missing.  Works as expected when loading the same thing from the Open strings.

Thanks again for your help!!

hibernation and updates are disabled.  Been using Vienna for many years now, never seen this before.

I've noticed that if I leave a project open, vienna will be running 4-6%, then I come back the next morning and  it's running at 40-60%, and then it's unplayable with major atifacts.  I have to then close and re-open vienna ensemble.  Not sure what's going on.  :/

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