Wunderbar!

I tried with VI (non-Pro) and it worked. I tried to "Convert project to VI PRO" and it worked too.

Thanks a lot and sorry to bother you while you are working on the Synchron Player ;) 

Kind regards,

Clément

I can see that "Pro" isn't mentioned in the error message but the problem occurs with VI Pro.

Thanks Paul for the quick answer !

Reinstalling the latest version of VIPro didn't solve the problem... I even tried to reinstall VEPro too but it didn't change anything.

For now, I can stick with loading presets in VIPro (as I own the standard version of SyPerc) but it could be useful later, or for someone else.

And I really can't understand why it works like a charm with SYStrings...

Kind regards

Hello,

I wanted to load the SY Perc projects one can download on the MyVSL page but I got an error (yellow sign in the bottom right of the VEPro window):

Errors occured while loading plugins:

Toolkit: Vienna Instruments (Could not openplugin)

I have no problem with the SY Strings projects.

Also, I'm using the latest versions of VEPro2 and VIPro6.

How can I resolve this ?

2nd Violins are here !!! 

Originally Posted by: fahl5

Should I count the players Could you see who is playing 1. Violin and who 2. Violin and if the Cellos are divided or not?

Those pictures might be very "informative", but I still would prefer to have the exact number of players per section.

It's written on the product page : "The sections of 1st violins (14), 2nd violins (10), violas (8), cellos (8), and double basses (6) were recorded separately at their designated positions on stage."

Originally Posted by: fahl5

And what will be Viola and Basses  and the sordinos of Viola + Basses?

I still think here is "something" to make more clear especially for those who intend to buy something without exactly knowledge wwhat is included in this early bird offer.

You're right, it isn't clear at all. But I think they didn't include the violas and basses in the demo because they just haven't finished editing them. As mentioned above (in the product page quote), the Synchron Strings I will include ALL the strings.

Hello,

SE1 Plus isn't an upgrade from SE1, it is an extension that brings additional articulations.

And, as written on the SE1 Plus page, you can't use it by itself :

Please note that the Special Edition Volume 1 PLUS contains some Matrices that resort to Patches from the Special Edition Volume 1. The prior installation of the Special Edition Volume 1 is therefore required in order to load these Matrices.

Originally Posted by: oldskool

ok, I am going to attempt to attach a Logic project containing very little aside from my VE Pro layer.   There are VE Pro's for VSL, Kontakt and GIGA in this project, although the fix is only applied to the VSL instance as you can see.

You can simply import the "VEPro Multiport" layer into your template and copy the encrypted macros over to your project.

Thanks a lot !
But the macros are "protected" and I can't unprotect/unpack them. I would like to see what' going on inside ;) Is it made like in Norbert Drees' "Advanced Multiport Environment" you can find on orchestraltemplates.com ? If yes, why aren't they two NRPN ? (I understand the 99 fix to assign a MIDI Channel but what is the 98 > 100 fix ?)

Originally Posted by: Ashermusic

As a Logic Certified Trainer and a guy who helps some fairly famous musicians build Logic/VE Pro templates, I sinply cannot recommend the Multiport layer. It is building a foundation on quicksand in my  view.

Yes, I've read that singles instances with 16 MIDI channels show better performance. But I don't want (don't have time) to recreate my VEP6 server. Moreover, I plan on leaving Logic-Mac-master/PC-slave for good and go to PCs with Cubase quite soon.

Wonderful !

But where can I find the 2013 version ? Or how can I fix it on the 2015 ?

Thanks for your quick reply Paul !

A Logic glitch ! That's what I was starting to think. Great you pointed it out.

Yes, the "switching solution" was the other idea I had in mind to keep a Kontakt/VIPro per section.

Best,

Clément

Hello,

I’m in the middle of a VEPro6 template using the Multiport Template for Logic Pro X. The routing works very well, I can play any instrument in Logic, every track sounds, etc. (I’ve been using Logic/VEPro for a few years now). The ONLY issue occurs with unisson legatos.

Let’s see how I did it :

Master MacBook Pro :

- an Instrument track with VEPro6 (hidden in the picture attached)

- MIDI tracks routed to the Instrument track using the VSL Multiport Template in the Environment

Slave PC, in VE Pro 6 :

- 1st Kontakt plugin with MIDI Port > 1 VE PRO Plugin MIDI In 1 (default name) and MIDI Channel > All

- 2nd Kontakt plugin with MIDI Port > 1 VE PRO Plugin MIDI In 2 and MIDI Channel > All

In each Kontakt, I load multiple patches with increasing MIDI Channel numbers. Let’s say in the 1st Kontakt :

- Violin1 legato > Midi Ch. : 1

- Vln1 staccato > Midi Ch. : 2

- Vln1 pizz > Midi Ch. : 3

- etc.

And in the same in the 2nd Kontakt with Violin2 legato, stacc, pizz, etc.

As I said, every patch works when I play it in Logic. The problem occurs when playing a unisson (with the legato patch) with all the violins and the 1st start an new note (a legato note) while the 2nd stay on the same note : the 2nd violins suddenly stop playing.

Given that all the patches are routed via a single Instrument in Logic, it seems that the 2nd violins also receive the new-legato-note information, leading to a stop-note.

So, my questions are :

- What did I do wrong ? I'm sure, it's so easy I could find it 

- Instead of having a Multi-Instrument per section (i.e. Violins 1, Violins 2, Violas, etc.) in Logic’s Environment, I could have one per articulation (legato, long notes, short, etc.) to avoid having legatos in the same MIDI Channels of the same Instrument track but with different MIDI Ports. But, isn’t there a solution to have one per section ? Because I remember youtube video where people did this (but it was in Cubase) and I never heard about this issue.

Best regards,

Clément

PS :

- it already occurred with older versions of Logic X and VEPro5, I just didn’t take time to post a thread

- I used Kontakt in this example but it behaves the same with VI Pro 2 (I assume it wouldn’t occur with polyphonic legato but it’s not the point)

- I know that MIDI Channels start at 2 in the Logic picture I attached, but I did it the same in VEPro6. It was just to try something. Of course, it doesn’t work either starting at 1 

Update 6.0.15258 fixed these issues. Both with Reverberate and Pro-Q 2.

Thanks a lot !!!

No more stuttering here with VE Pro 6.0.15258 and FabFilter Pro-Q 2
But, as I said earlier, it sometimes occured and sometimes not. I'll keep you in touch if I notice new issues.

Thanks a lot !!! I have musics to send for a film this weekend.

Hi,

In my case :

VE Pro 6.0.15224
Fabilter Pro-Q 2 (v2.05) on a Kontakt 5 or VI Pro 2 channel
Master : OSX 10.11.5 - Logic X 10.2.4
Slave : PC Win 10x64

But sound sometimes stutters, sometimes not (in all cases, there's ONLY a Fabfilter Pro-Q 2 on the channel)

I purchased VE Pro 6 yesterday but I noticed a very strange behavior during the playback :

1. some instruments stutter
2. other don't sound at all 
3. routing goes crazy (sound goes to busses exen if not routed to)

I assume it is a plugin issue because when I bypass them, everything goes normal.

The Fabfilter EQ sometimes shows the issue 1 symptoms, sometimes not.
Liquidsoniccs Reverberate 2.1 never works : issue 2 when inserted, issues 2 & 3 when on a bus routing

I can't go back to older versions of VEP6 to see if it would work because I only purchased it yesterday.

Master : 10.11.5 - Logic X 10.2.4
Slave : PC Win 10 (64 bits)

Same issue here. The problem disappear when I bypass the plugin on the channel (in this case, I had only one plugin on it)

Master : 10.11.5 - Logic X 10.2.4

Slave : PC Win 10x64

Bonjour,

As-tu bien fait correspondre les canaux MIDI des VIP à ceux de ton séquenceur ?

Si ce n'est pas ça, il faudrait un peu plus d'infos sur ta configuration (un seul ordinateur ou couple maître-esclave ? Mac/PC ? Logic/Cubase/ProTools/Ableton ? etc.)

Hi,

Be sure you you have the same version of VE Pro 5 on both computers.

I had the same problem a few weeks ago : VE on one of my computeurs wasn't up to date.

Hi,

First, you don't need to buy the extended solo bassoon to get the staccato articulation (Single Instrument Bassoon). In the standard library, you have staccato and the performance repetition articulations that can be great alternative (more or less attack, best single note repetition, etc.).

To answer your questions :

1/ the bassoon (single instrument) have 4 velocity layers, one more than the SE (you can download all the VSL manuals even if you don't own the library).

2/ It is a matter of taste but for staccato passages, I prefer NOT to use the velocity X-fade. In fact, I only use it for large dynamic effects on long notes when the dynamic patches don't suit.

3/ On the contrary, the Expression CC is very useful to give life to every kind of articulations (e.g. to avoid unatural long sustain notes, to support (de)crescendos, to get softer note endings, etc.)

Hi,

Polyphonic legato comes with  Vienna Instruments Pro, not Vienna Ensemble Pro.

Hi Dylan !

In Logic, the main window channels correspond to the VE Pro MIDI channels (you already know this part) but the mixer window channels correspond to the VE Pro audio outputs — i.e. the OUT X/OUT Y  — you can find at the bottom of the VE Pro channel strips (just above the channel name).

When you add a channel in the Logic mixer window (by clicking on the "+" button), you can see VnEn3-4 at its top (or VnnEns3-4). It means that the audio coming out of the OUT 3/OUT 4 goes in this channel. You just have to match the VE Pro output and the Logic input numbers.

Hi,

Reverb is probably the most important thing to consider (besides proper EQ and compression adjustment, of course) when you want to sound big. If possible, try to listen to CinePerc in dry (or close ?) position without any room/tail ! You'll see that other companies do not have "bigger" percussions, the just sell them with baked verb. But don't even try to get a decent sounding mock-up of smaller pieces like, for example, Bartok's sonata for 2 pianos and percussion, with these.

About the strings, Casquire is right, Appassionata Strings will already give you a large-sounding string section. Adding an other big string library won't bring you as much as the realistic detail of Dimension Strings (or other). I use, almost everyday, the combination of Dimension Strings with Appassionata (the Epic Orchestra version only) and, I manage to get in one of these libraries what I miss in the other one.

You're welcome.

You only have two things to rembember in the preset name :

1/ L1 and L2 refer to the edition of the library. L1 -> Standard library / L2 -> Extended library
2/ "Small Set" and "Large Set" amount to the number of articulations. The small set includes the basic articulations and the large set includes all the articulations.

So, choose Large Set L2 for the maximum amount of articulations.

As far as I am concerned, I also prefer to load the full Presets/Matrices and disable the cells I don't use in VI Pro. Thus, my basic template is fast-loading (just a few gigas) and allows me to enable "rare" articulations when I need them.

Hi Miki,

To sum up, Presets are made of Matrices and Matrices are made of Patches :

- a Patch is an articulation,

- a Matrice is the chart (in the middle of VI Pro/Standard) containing the Patches,

- a Preset is a group of Matrices (the blue column on the left of the VI Pro/Standard). The built-in Presets for Dimension Strings are "Regular playing", "Open strings", and "Force string". The last one amounts to the "Sul ..." playing technique (until the note is to high for the selected string).

To have the maximum amount of articulations, load the Presets.

Yes, you'll have to load 5 instances of VI Pro to play the instruments separately. The other solution to have only one instance in your DAW is to use Vienna Ensemble, but you'll have to load the 5 instances of VI Pro in it.

Hi Infernalvoice ! And welcome,

There is an upgrade path (http://www.vsl.co.at/en/211/261/2124/2245/1917.vsl) but it only applies when your buy the Extended Library (the second column) of the instrument collection. You'll have to pay the full price of the Standard Library.