Thank you for sharing this symphony. I was captivated.
I read on your site about story telling and I think, that's exactly why I was captivated until the end.
I liked also the instrumentation and the very natural use of the VSL instruments and MIR PRO. Very convincing!

Congratulations!

Hi,

This evening I looked in my licenses and saw that the Vienna Suite and Vienna Imperial have a green dot, so they have an iLOK license now.
I looked in the iLOK license manager and there these licenses are also available.
In the Vienna Assistant I don't see them!
Is this correct for the moment (work in progress)?

Thanks

Hi Peter,

You can extend in Vienna Instruments Pro  the range of all instruments (you have to do this for every patch again).

I made an image. After clicking on "Advanced" at the red 1 and clicking on the sign at the red 2 you can add a few notes by dragging the slider at the red 3 to the right.

If you don't have Vienna Instruments Pro, you can get it free of charge when you change from e-licenser to Ilok. 

Good luck

@ MIka: Always nice to hear, how experiences of people can differ from each other. I went just the other way, from the French company's emulation to VSL Steinway, which sounds in my ear more realistic and beautiful (and I'm a pianist too).
How experiences of people can be different, even opposite . So not a right or wrong, but different.

@ Elbarn: I get good results with mixing especially mid 2 mics with the condenser clos 1 mics as a base. And I add sometimes a little of the room mic or one of the surround mics. But I don't know if this is the sound you are looking for.

I just want to say, that the last update of Synchron Player (v1.2.171, August 25th, 2022) gives a remarkable improved speed with loading a rather big orchestra template. And the same for the Synchron Piano Player (v.2.83), the Synchron Harp Player (v1.2.79) and the Vienna Organ Player (v1.2.137). Great job! Thanks.

On the 20th of december 2017 William started a thread on this forum, called "Composer challenge" about composing melodies. There I chimed in for the first time on this forum with an own composition, a little piece for piano, called "For a little one, a tender one".

These days I am experimenting with MIR PRO 3D and with the SYNCHRON-ized Solo strings, the muted and unmuted ones. I made a arrangement of the piece for violin and piano, all very simple. It is just a lullaby.

I am using the character presets of MIR PRO 3D, the "01 violin 1 center warm" for the unmuted part, and in the second part with the muted violin the preset "01 Volin sord Solo center warm". (The piano is the Steinway)

In the meantime I kept experimenting to get a result as realistic as possible. The version that can be heard now is a little modified version of the character preset "01 violin 1 center clear" for the first part. I set toggle band 2, 4 and 6 a little bit higher. Also I placed the violin further away from the microphone in MIR3D and I turned the direction of the violin a little away from the microphone. I think for this moment the best option.

For who is interested, here is the link.

 

For a little one, a tender one - violin and piano version

In the meantime I found a solution.

• I copied 2 character presets of "violin 1" and 2 character presets of "violin 1 sord" exactly to the Vienna equalizer Pro, manually.
• I set 2 Vienna equalizers Pro in the violin channel. 
• I automated the toggle off/on of the bands of one equalizer with cc100, the other with cc 101.
• And so I could choose the right character equalizer settings (muted or unmuted).
• I took care that the character preset within MIR PRO 3D was set on "pure".

For those who wants to use the presets of Vienna Equalizer Pro, I attach them in a zip-file to this post.

They have to be placed in a Windows computer in:
Documents > VSL > Vienna Ensemble Pro > Vienna Equalizer Pro > Presets

or in Documents > VSL > Vienna Equalizer Pro > Presets

(In a MAC computer I don't know).

Hi, I’m working on a piece for violin and piano. I use violin 1 and violin 1 sord in one Synchron Player instance. I use Vienna MIR Pro 3D for the violin, with the MIRx settings.
The Character equalizer settings for the muted and unmuted version are quite different from each other. Is there a way to automate the 2 Character presets, so that I can keep the muted and unmuted version in one Player and switch between the 2?

By the way, I like working with MIR PRO 3D very much. It looks like, some musical details in “singing” tones are more audible with the solostrings. I'm glad with it!

+1

Especially with MIR PRO 3D, that make the SYNCHRON-ized libraries even better (!),
"SYNCHRON-ized Muted Solo Strings", or as the name of the VI version: "SYNCHRON-ized Solo Strings II",
it should be a great addition to my libraries!
And what a great plus would be, is that we can use then the Timbre Adjust tool, which has become an indispensable tool for me. 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for taking the time to listen to the music. I really appreciate that,
also your analysis of the piece in many aspects. Thanks for that. I send you a PM.

Hi everybody,
VSL has made expression maps for SYNCHRON-ized Solo Strings, that are for the basic presets and not the full presets.I just finished an expression map for violin 1 and viola (they use the same expression map), which is a copy of the VSL expression map, but for the full preset. So I followed exactly the choices that VSL made. By adding more playing techniques in this expression map, you can use also the samples, that are not in the basic preset, more easily. I hope this is useful for some of you. (I placed this message also on the Dorico forum of course).

Hi, I finished a piece for violoncello and orchestra. For me with not so much full symphony orchestra experience it was a discovery journey, for the violoncello as well as for the orchestra. I used mostly Synchron libraries (not the Synchron-ized ones). The muted strings are a combination of muted orchestra strings + muted dimension strings.
I hope you enjoy it.

Ballad for Violoncello and Orchestra

Hi,

a very interesting experiment, which shows how well Synchron Solo Strings can work, definitely!
Unfortunately you can hear something of the groups now and than to which the soloists belong. But I think this is inevitable.

Thanks for sharing this experiment!

Hi, there is one thing you can do to speed up things while working in Dorico.
In the tab of an instance of VEPro you see this sign: (!)
When you click on that sign, Dorico doesn't save any longer that instance. 
So click on each of the (!) signs of the 10 tabs of all VEPro instances, and you will no longer be held up by the intermediate savings by Dorico.
WARNING: you have to save VEPro before closing it, because VEPro has to save now the instances, because Dorico doesn't do it any longer! In Windows you can save the VEPro instances by CTR + Shift + S (I am not familiar with Apple computers). And before you close VEPro you are asked if you want to save your save the Server Project.
Hope that this helps.

Yes, that is possible. ILok has a dongle, and it is simple (drag and drop) to move licenses from the Cloud session to the iLok dongle. After that you don't need a internet connection to use the libraries, from which the licenses are on the dongle.
Good luck!

Hi Paolo, I see them in the chapter Synchron Series, the same chapter, where Synchron Strings I is. I give you a screenshot.

Hi Dave,

This sounds very well, orchestra, violin, I'm looking forward to the whole concert!
Good luck finishing the concert!

Hi Arnold,

Just an experience of mine.
I don't know if you are using Vienna Ensemble Pro, but in that case the Integrated Vienna Equalizer Pro can be the problem. When you are using that plugin (especially with using band 1 and/or band 8) on the silent instruments, probably you will get sound on that instrument if you disable Integrated Vienna Equalizer Pro.
VSL knows about this problem and is working on a solution.

Perhaps this helps...

Hi everybody,

tonight I started downloading the Synchron harp with the iLok license. This went well. I found a solution for my other libraries in my situation. I write it down here. Perhaps it can help other people.

Problem:
It is not possible to use e-licenser licenses and iLok licenses of libraries, that are using the Synchron Player, at the same time on the same computer. 
And I have 2,5 TB sample content, what I have to download. That is probably 5 or 6 nights, before this is finished. In that time I cannot use the samples, much to long for me.

Solution:
I have enough space on spinning hard disks to download the installation files of the libraries. In the Vienna Assistant I check in Preferences "Download only mode". Now I download first all installation files of the Synchron and SYNCHRON-ized libraries, that I have.
When the downloads are finished, I start the installation of the libraries. I delete the old samples of the libraries (I need the space) and start the installation process (by clicking in the left upper corner of Vienna Assistant "Install from drive"). 
I install the Synchron player after the installation of the libraries. For this I uncheck "Download only mode". That makes the installation of the Synchron Player easier.

Benefit:
in the days that I download the libraries I can work with the samples with the old e-licenser licenses. The installation of the libraries take some time (I think a few hours, and not several days). So for me this is a big time saver.

I just want to say, that I love the Synchron Woodwinds.

Right now I'm working on a piece for oboe, violin, cello and piano. And I use here the second oboe. A beautiful sound and possibilities for subtile expression, all very natural sounding. Perfect legato and possibilities for use of vibrato and non vibrato tones, all in very smooth transitions. And by using the close mic and and stereo mid mic the oboe can sound quite intimate. The SYNCHRON-ized woodwinds are really good, but the Synchron Woodwinds have something extra for subtile expression.

And when I listen to the subtile expression of the Synchron oboes, I think secretly: should there be a momentum for Synchron solo strings....??

Hi Dave, I enjoyed the music very much and also the performance, the piano and the viola. They sound both as real players. The sound of the recording is also very good. Congratulations!

Hi Vulcan,

As far as I can see, there is no expression control (cc 11). But there is a master volume control cc 7 (and if you want, you can change the cc of the master volume to cc11). Indeed, the Synchron Harp Player works different from the Synchron Player because of the nature of the instrument. I had to dive into the manual. You find this HERE .

As far as I can see we have to make the glissandi ourselves. To get the right notes in glissandi the pedal mode is introduced. It works very well, and the good thing about the Vienna Synchron Harp is, that it triggers us to get to know the instrument. Of course I don't know if you are familiar with the instrument. If not, this Video is also very instructive.

I hope this helps. Good luck!

I love the music, I love the programming, I love the sound of the Yamaha in de space.
Beautiful!

Hi Dave, I listened to this piece and I just want to say that I enjoyed it. The music but also the beautiful trumpet. Nice to hear something from you!
Best.