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1.Syncron Player vs Vienna Instruments Player 7/14/2019 8:13:35 PM

Can somebody point me to a thread or tell me what is the difference between Syncron Player and Vienna Instruments Player? I have purchased the special edition 1 and some addons for VI player will those ever be used in Syncron player or are they different beasts all together?

 

Thank you

2.Syncron? Epic Orchestra 2.0 No Idea 2/21/2019 12:45:07 PM

Originally Posted by: Schemen Go to Quoted Post

Hi Paul,

I have a similar problem. MAC OS X 10.13.6, Logic Pro X 10.4.4, the epic orchestra file downloaded and installed. The synchron player opens up in Logic, but no instruments available. In the general settings of SP, the database shows the correct path to the content, but I don't see any instruments to choose from in the "preset" area.

Any hints??

 

You have to launch the Syncron Installer to "Register" (for lack of better terms), your new sounds with syncron player.

So, go to the Syncron installer in Applications. When you launch Syncron installer, it will ask you for the Package.info file. That file is located in the Temp files that were extracted after you downloaded the inital 28 gig. If you clicked Delete files after download then that package.info is in the trash.  If you didnt delete them then navigate to the location where they were downloaded and find the package.info file, the syncron installer will re-install the epic orchestra 2.0 files in a drive of your choosing. Yes you are basically installing these twice. They should now show up in the syncron player in Logic.

It may seem like a pain but the sounds are so cool i was totally ok with it.  

3.Syncron? Epic Orchestra 2.0 No Idea 2/21/2019 12:38:48 PM

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi liquidvienna, 

Congrats!

The reason for the smaller download is the compression we applied to the downloaded installation files. Those are extracted during installation and can be deleted once the crypted sample content is installed. 

We will hopefully add a Standalone Synchron Player soon, to avoid such misunderstandings!

Enjoy your Epic Orchestra 2.0!

Best, 
Paul

 

Thanks Paul

4.Syncron? Epic Orchestra 2.0 No Idea 2/21/2019 1:32:59 AM

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi, 

Can you please send post some screenshots or contact me directly via ? I'm pretty sure this can be solved rather quickly. 

Best, 
Paul

 

Success I figured it out, Well first off it all downloaded this time. Nothing said unavailable so it all installed. Now this part maybe my fault and lack of time to read anything LOL.. So when i download all 28 gigs, Download Manager asks, Want to install?  I say YES!!  So it presents me with the screen to check all the boxes. Curiously the Package.info is not in there, BECAUSE its in with all of the other downloaded files. So what was happening is that at the end of download managers install DM would ask me, "Do you want to delete the downloaded files?" Of course i say YES!!! 

But it deletes the package.info file to.  So when i would launch the syncron library installer there was no package.info to find as it was gone. 

It just seemed weird that there was an initial  28 gig download then an install of 75 gig then run Syncron installer and it creates another file of 75 gig. Its probably my fault for not reading something LOL

Anyway it works. Thank you guys.. ORCH-ON Garth!!!

5.Syncron? Epic Orchestra 2.0 No Idea 2/20/2019 8:01:59 PM

Originally Posted by: GP1 Go to Quoted Post

unavailable could mean a faulty download (i.e. missing files due to deifferent reasons) or possibly a path error.

 

Im betting thats the reason. if im lucky, tonight it will be fine.. 

6.Syncron? Epic Orchestra 2.0 No Idea 2/20/2019 8:00:57 PM

yeah mine shows all the packages but some are greyed out and say not available and a few are available and checked. 

Ill see what Paul has to say tonight after i send him the Screen shots. 

 

Originally Posted by: GP1 Go to Quoted Post

NO - using the download manager and following its progress until it said "FINISH" I had no error message.  I left all the default check marks as they were, except for the path, which I have a special one for all the VSL libraries.

Unavailable could mean a faulty download (i.e. missing files due to deifferent reasons) or possibly a path error.

7.Syncron? Epic Orchestra 2.0 No Idea 2/20/2019 7:59:51 PM

Paul, Yep no problem. Ill send them tonight. Thank you again for the help. 

 

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi, 

Can you please send post some screenshots or contact me directly via ? I'm pretty sure this can be solved rather quickly. 

Best, 
Paul

8.Syncron? Epic Orchestra 2.0 No Idea 2/20/2019 3:01:21 PM

Cool.. when you installed it after it was downloaded did you notice anything that said the package was unavailable?

 

Originally Posted by: GP1 Go to Quoted Post

HI,

I have downloaded the Epic Orchestra as well, using the Download Manager/Installer.  Same for the Synchron player.  I use Cubase so it shows up as a VST instrument, in your case it would be i AU plugin list.

After you launch the instrument within your DAW, if everything is properly installed, you should see the list of presets win the Synchron player.

9.Syncron? Epic Orchestra 2.0 No Idea 2/20/2019 2:59:58 PM

I will do that tonight. Last night it did not show up as a plug in. But this doesnt address why im not getting all the packages downloaded and why some say unavailable. I guess we will work one issue at a time. when i get home tonight i will double check the AU manager and see if its in there. 

 

Thanks again. 

 

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi, 

I see what the trouble is. 

Synchron Player is NOT a Standalone Software (yet). 

=> Please insert the plug-in in your host (Sequencer or Vienna Ensemble PRO). 

What happens if you perform the steps I described under my questions in the original post?

Best, 
Paul

10.Syncron? Epic Orchestra 2.0 No Idea 2/20/2019 1:06:29 PM

Thank you for the reply please read my answers below in red.

 

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Hi liquidvienna, 

I can see that you have download your license for Epic Orchestra 2.0 already, so that's fine!

I have 2 questions for you: 

1) Did you install the Synchron Player Software yet?  I have downloaded the app. When i click to install it pops up with a message saying that it will look for a DVD or Package.info. In which there is not one in the folder

2) Did you actually INSTALL the sample content (after the download has finished)? Yes when it goes to install. There are check marks next to the packages to install. When its finished it only installs the check marked packages and nothing else. I think i did it 2 or 3 times and each time there was a different set of packages available. I have to say this is the weirdest thing i have ever seen.

If the answer is YES to both, you can

- insert the Synchron Player directly in Logic Pro X and access those sounds. Check out these walkthrough videos, hope I can give you some insight!

- insert Synchron Player in Vienna Ensemble PRO. 

Best, 
Paul

11.Syncron? Epic Orchestra 2.0 No Idea 2/20/2019 3:37:51 AM

So when i download the library TO3_Epic-orchestra_2_0_SPv2_w1. I get random results. Most of the library says Not Available and a few are available. So i delete everything and do it again and i get a different set of libraries are available and more are not but its not the same as the first time. 

Confused very confused. 

12.Syncron? Epic Orchestra 2.0 No Idea 2/20/2019 2:20:14 AM

Please dont flame the crapzilla out of me until after i get my answer : )

I just downloaded epic orchestra 2.0 and the syncron player. Now what? I installed everything but when i click on the syncron install app it wants a package.info file or something like that. When i launch VEP Pro and then add the instrument i see the original epic orchestra but not the 2.0

I guess im confused about the syncron player and its relation to VEP. 

How do i play the epic orchestra 2.0 sounds?

Im on Logic (latest version) Mac Latest version.

 

Thank you in advance i know its a newb question. 

13.VEP 6 and Kontakt 5.6 Crash instantly OS X 10/6/2016 3:32:21 AM

So far Kontakt 5.6 VST and VEP 6 are not working together at all. AU seems ok

Initially i launched Kontakt and loaded Spitfire Albion One. The graphics in Albion One were all messed up. I contacted spitfire and they had me delete some Kontakt Scripts. They blamed it on VEP6. 

Next. I opened VEP6 and tried to load Kontakt. I get a, "Your Kontakt is too old" WHAT? no problem, i uninstalled Kontakt and all the plugins from all the folder using these instructions.

https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/210291865

Reloaded Kontakt and updated it

I made sure Kontakts plugins were all the same in all folders and loaded as 5.6. 

opened VEP6. clicked on Kontakt and VEP crashes instantly.. this is repeatable over and over. 

I unistalled VEP 6 completely and loaded VEP 5.4.13741   Kontakt works perfectly.. 

 

 

OSX 10.11.6

Mac Pro

14.Needful Things Location 8/27/2016 12:53:04 AM

Im looking for the Needful things link. Anybody know where it went? 

15.Instruments Pro 2. Not loading SE samples from Preset (light Blue) 1/1/2014 12:21:13 AM

Yeah thats what I was thinking because all the other things load. I cant find anything that says settings. There is a sprocket at the top but not sure if those setting have any bearing on it. I can click VI Presets and all works fine. Just the VI PRO-2 Chord Presets and the VI Pro-2 Presets. They dont work.. ugh... man.. 

Never mInd I found it on another thread... I now would like to know if there is a drawback to Force Enabling these cells? if they were diabled at start up Vienna must think they maybe a problem, Cause a problem, or suck up alot of resources?  

Hi,


the VIPro2 presets ship with disabled cells - you will have to enable the preset/matrix/cell that you want to use. There is also a setting called "Force Enable Cells", that will always load presets/matrices fully enabled.

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Martin Saleteg
Software Developer
Vienna Symphonic Library GmbH
16.Instruments Pro 2. Not loading SE samples from Preset (light Blue) 12/31/2013 11:48:48 PM

Well, I just got Vienna Instruments Pro 2. I was trying to load the New Chord Presets for the Special edition. WHen I load a Matrix or Preset, listed under the VIPro2 category the blocks show up (light blue) but the samples are not loading. Does VIPro2 not support the Special Edition? uh oh... 

Thanks.. just dont have time for the manual until this weekend..

17.Do I need Vienna Instruments Pro to work with Sibelius 7 12/30/2013 11:48:22 PM

Well I got it to work but I used Matrix > Special Edition sounds. Then picked the instrument or well, guessed.

Another question, is there a difference between Active Devices VE Special Edition and VSL Ensemble Special Edition.. Thanks again : )

sorry one more.. is there a difference between picking say Double Bass Ensemble or just Double Bass..ok thats it i promise.. 

Just need to figure out why the red boxes are red (patches from sibelius not loading) why?  sorry that was another question.. dont ever trust a guitar player 

18.Do I need Vienna Instruments Pro to work with Sibelius 7 12/30/2013 11:23:59 PM

Im trying to get Vienna Instruments Special edition to work with Sibelius 7.1.3 on OSX Maverick. I have it all setup in Sibelius but when I goto add instruments in Ensemble Pro 5 I click on the Preset>Sibelius> and say Picollo.. I just get Red Boxes.  Do I need Pro? or did it not install right. Am i just an idiot. If I just goto Matix and pic flute will that work?

What is the relation between the names in the Manual SoundSet and the names in the SE Instruments?

Thanks Rock on. 

19.[SOLVED] Problem with eLicenser server 12/30/2013 10:28:52 PM

Hey, thanks for the info. How is the dongle registered? is it automatic when you use it? I bought 3 from Sweetwater and I dont remember doing that? Do you have a link to where I would have to send it? or the process. I feel left in the dark on this but then again I didnt know this was an issue. The package it came in has no information on it.

Now I know im not going to change any minds here but this is me thinking out loud. 

Replacing it every 2 years? at 30 bucks each and the price would go up? thats 45 dollars a year(x3) to have access to a license that I paid alot of money for. Not really a winning proposition. Nor is iLok, 50x3  150+90(for the ZDT) =$240 forever..  
and developers wonder why people pirate software. They are pretty much adding on a, "Thanks for being fair and buying our stuff legally" TAX. Not a good way to treat people who are trying to put bread on your table.   

Maybe its back to pen and paper and my imagination.     

Also, to correct one thing you said regarding iLok..   The new TLC does require a spare iLok MO MONEY they can replace your licenses if your ilok is lost or stolen. An RMA license recovery and replacement fee will apply. of course they dont tell you how much that is. im seriously starting to rethink this endeavor.. hmmm

20.[SOLVED] Problem with eLicenser server 12/30/2013 7:41:09 PM

To me I dont really care when these servers go down. It doesnt happen alot, just really annoying. Its just the facts of life as long as there are hackers around doing bad things. But what really does bother me and I didnt know this until I read the insurance thread, is that if this dongle screws up, lost, stolen. then all of my money is gone. If I had known this I would have never purchased a Vienna Product. iLok may go down but they do have Zero Down Time for 30 bucks. Thats priceless to me. I was going to buy Vienna instruments Pro when the server came back online but now that I know that my invested can literaly go in the trash at any time, im not going to buy it. I think steingberg should either invest in the insurance plan or VSL should move to iLok. 

21.Logic Pro X, EastWest Play VEP 5 Pro Bug? 12/30/2013 4:33:04 AM

I found some strange behavior in LPX 10.0.5. Im not sure if its a bug or if I just need to RTFM. LOL So here it goes

Open Logic Pro X

Create Instrument Track MultiTimbral

Choose the track with the Yellow lines (randomly chosen by logic as the plugin track?)

Instantiate VEP 5 Pro Multi Output 16 on that track

Mac Mini (other computer)

Load Hollyweird Strings Violins 1, goto _quickstart HS and load all of, say, Violins 1 that will be 9 patches

Change Midi on all patches to 1-9 (1 - being 1st violin led Slur LT 3 NI and 9 - Being 1st Violin Trill 2 HT/WT

Go back to Logic and Connect VEP to Strings on Mac Mini

Now try to play Midi Channel 1.. it doesn't play. This happens on all Stringed instruments and all patches

The fix:


In HW Strings if there are 9 patches, like above, go back to LPX and make a new multi-timbral track with 10 channels. Delete the first experiment from above Now, Channel 1 won't play as usual,

So go back to the HW strings and delete channel 1 and re add it as channel 10

and now map channel 10 in LPX to Channel 10 in HW strings and it will work..

Weird things that make me think this is Logic pro X.

If you create the instrument track and it puts the track with the yellow lines to the right as the first track. Nothing works. delete the instrument and add one number to the amount of midi channels and it will randomly choose some other place for the yellow lined track.

Track stacks,

Several times I actually got it to work with midi channel one mapped to LPX but as soon as I would create a track stack it would no longer work and I would have to the the fix above.

Something about midi channel 1 it doesnt like..

Im going to post this on some other forums.. Im not sure if its an LPX, VEP, EW Problem.

LPX 10.0.5

Play 4.1

VEP latest Version

Mac Pro Mavericks 10.9.1

Mac Mini Mavericks 10.9.1

22.Insurance? 12/30/2013 12:12:04 AM
This is the very reason I won't spend a lot on vienna software. I own about 500 american dollars worth and thats it. The system isn't user friendly at all, I bought the essential package and because the stupid server is down i can't use it? can you imagine buying a car or a guitar and taking it home and saying yeah its useless because the server is down. If I lose my car keys they don't come take the car away and say its not yours. You pay a small fee for the new key. There has to be a better way or an insurance option. like say hmmmm iLOK.. 30 bucks and you get zero down time.
23.still waiting on license, why? 12/29/2013 10:24:58 PM
Hey thanks, yes i got it. But of course now the eLicensor servers are down. I guess they have been down awhile. I wanted to buy Vienna instruments pro but I will wait for now. Anyway, thanks maybe ill get to use it eventually LOL

Oh and tell the Development guys ROCK ON.. I love the instruments interface.. they did a great job..
24.still waiting on license, why? 12/29/2013 3:45:00 PM
Just wondering. I purchased VSL Special Edition a few days ago and I'm still waiting on the license. Is this due to the vendor or something else?

Thanks

Im in a hurry because I can't wait to DUMP my eastwest non working, constant crash, over complicated crap. : ) oops that was my inside voice.. sorry LOL

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