some here on MacBook Pro 2017 with Monterey

maurizio

Originally Posted by: skram

Thanks, Maurfe. I guess if I change the middle C inside ViPro, I wouldn´t change it in Logic, right..?

Would that not affect all other behaviour?

or VI Pro or Logic

Thank you!

very beautiful

maurizio - from Rome :-(

Hallo Stefan,

I did not understand correctly maybe because some time ago I saw in my account a different cost to upgrade the individual instruments to the Full Library even if clearly the upgrade to the whole library is cheeaper economically.

Thanks

maurizio

Hallo,

I have already bought Woodwinds I SL and Flute Ensemble FL, is it possible to buy the Full Library of single instruments with the February offer?

I would like to mention that in my account it would appear that I did not purchase Woodwinds I SL and Flute Ensemble FL

Thanks

maurizio

Thank you Paul!

maurizio

Originally Posted by: Kai

Hi Maurizio,

I think the problem is that, having bought a single instrument library before, when you "upgrade to the collection standard library", what you actually get are merely single instrument licenses for all the other instruments in the collection (you can check this on your vienna key). As I wrote the single instrument standard licenses are for most instruments identical to the SE version, whereas the collection license, that you get when you purchase the collection from scratch, contains significantly more content (as detailed above). I had exactly the same problem and ended up upgrading to full to get all the unreduced versions (full single instruments licenses are identical to the full collection content).

I thnk it is a pity that VSL does not explain all these subtleties properly on their site ...

Cheers

Kai

Hi Kai,

I also made it, maybe it's just like that. I wrote to the support and I await the answer.

If it is really so I am disappointed and irritated for not having found any clear indication anywhere.

I had read your post and I was sure that from the single instrument to the Complete Standard Library I would have had the instruments with the version not reduced.

I would have definitely opted for a different purchase

Thank you

maurizio

thank you

maurizio

On my hard disk Installed File Size is 11.95 GB (including Flute Ensemble Full) vs 41.6 GB shown on the site.

Perhaps having previously purchased Flute Ensemble Full now makes me install the remaining libraries as purchased separately?

This would not be correct!

maurizio

I don't have OB2 but OBfr in a named folder Download Instruments patches

time ago i bought Flute Ensemble Full and it is in a named folder Woodwinds patches 

copied directly to Vienna Instrument Pro

Oboe

SE (left) - Woodwinds I SL (right)

01S OBfr staccato - 01D OBfr staccato

Wave Count: 102 - Wave Count: 102

Velocity Layers: 3 - Velocity Layers: 3

2 Alternations - 2 Alternations

02S OBfr sustain - 03D OBfr sustain_Vib

Wave Count: 51 - Wave Count: 51

Velocity Layers: 3 - Velocity Layers: 3

03S OBfr sforzato - 06D OBfr sfz

Wave Count: 18 - Wave Count: 18

Velocity Layers: 1 - Velocity Layers: 1

04S OBfr legato - 21D OBfr legato

Wave Count: 1522 - Wave Count: 1522

Velocity Layers: 2 - Velocity Layers: 2

05S OBfr legato-sus - 22D OBfr legato-sus

Wave Count: 1556 - Wave Count: 1556

Velocity Layers: 2 - Velocity Layers: 2

01B OBfr portato - 02D OBfr portato

Wave Count: 102 - Wave Count: 102

Velocity Layers: 3 - Velocity Layers: 3

2 Alternation - 2 Alternations

02B OBfr fp - 05D OBfr fp

Wave Count: 18 - Wave Count: 18

Velocity Layers: 1 - Velocity Layers: 1

03B OBfr trill_1 - 11D OBfr trill_1

Wave Count: 32 - Wave Count: 32

Velocity Layers: 2 - Velocity Layers: 2

04B OBfr trill_2 - 12D OBfr trill_2

Wave Count: 32Wave Count: 32

Velocity Layers: 2Velocity Layers: 2

05B OBfr perf-rep legato - 23D OBfr perf-rep legato

Wave Count: 170 - Wave Count: 170

Velocity Layers: 2 - Velocity Layers: 2

06B OBfr perf-rep staccato - 25D OBfr perf-rep staccato

Wave Count: 306 - Wave Count: 306

Velocity Layers: 2 - Velocity Layers: 2

maurizio

I bought this morning Woodwinds I Standard Library, I compared with SE, which I bought several years ago, and the articulations have the same number of layers, they are the same as the SE.

It is also reported in the manual

have of course more articulations in Woodwinds 1 standard than SE

maurizio

Originally Posted by: Kai

I would rather get the Woodwinds 1 Collection Standard Library (and if your budget allows this Woodwinds 2 as well) since these include the unreduced versions of the included instruments with up to 6 velocity layers (compared to 3 in the SE, which makes for me a big difference), chromatic sampling (compared to whole-tone in the SE) and more alternations (up to 4 instead of up to 2 in the SE). Unfortunately the VSL website does not really explain these differences …

Unfortunately it is not so, maybe once, but now in the Woodwinds 1 Collection Standard Library, although there are more articulations of SE, the main (detached, sustain, legato and more) are exactly the same.

Even if I do not need the three-player ensembles, I bought Woodwinds 1 Collection Standard Library, taking advantage of the current offer, hoping to have a not reduced version of the main articulations in the single instruments, instead I have the duplicate of the SE, certainly more articulations, but in the main layers themselves ...

I'm quite disappointed because with a better description of the product I would not have made this purchase

maurizio

Originally Posted by: Paul McGraw

… Are you using MIR, MIRx or some other reverb for spatialization? …

Hi Paul,

I have MIRx - really nice - but in this case I used Space Designer on a bus by adjusting all traces on pre fader.

With the latest versions of LogicPro X you can use "real stereo" panning that allows a very effective tool placement.

I do not have technical bases to mix and I basically try to reproduce the reverb and spatialization of the executions that I like most.

Originally Posted by: William

Maurizio is a very serious musician in his approach, and very impressive in studying the performance so carefully - that is a great idea and I didn't mean to say it was wrong to study in that way, not at all.  I completely understand what you are saying and by doing the "reproduction" of something consciously, it allows one to incorporate that into a performance later on that is more personal.  Anyway it is a great job you did on this, no matter how it was accomplished.      

Hi, William,

thank you again for your attention and your sincere remarks

best regard

Maurizio

William is perfectly right, score reading and personal processing are the only serious approach to music, this is the attitude I've always had with my instrument, always refusing to listen to the great executions before I have developed my own. In fact I was very embarrassed by your congratulations on the musical aspects of a performance that is not mine. Sorry I should have explained immediately that my intention is not to propose my interpretation but to make it probable to render a strings ensemble with the virtual orchestra. On guitar I know how to accomplish my ideas what I find very difficult with orchestral strings. After several unsatisfactory attempts on some of my small pieces I thought that trying to reproduce a good performance might be the right way. Indeed this meticulous observation has made me clear the ideas on how to proceed. One of the aspects that strikes me most is how the bows strongly affect the overall yield. I hope to be able to propose soon something entirely mine.

For now I still apologize to everyone for the misunderstanding

best regard

Maurizio

No, I have Chambers Strings I - II and Special Edition 

Maurizio

Thanks to all for the positive comments, but I want to point out that my merit is merely craftsmanship, since this work is largely based on the splendid performance of the Concertgebouw Chamber Orchestra.

I have always been fascinated of the sound and dynamics of strings ensemble, musical aspects to me foreclosed - I play the guitar - so the opportunity to "play the bows" thanks to the virtual sounds is, besides the study, the source of a great personal pleasure.

I am also convinced that imitation aware of fine performances is the best approach to thoroughly the executive practice of various musical instruments families.

best regards

Maurizio

(sorry for my english)

Thanks a lot for the comment.

Yes, Chamber strings is really amazing for sound rich in nuances and flexibility of use

Maurizio

thank you

maurizio

Extract of Larghetto from Serenade for Strings op. 20 by E. Elgar

https://soundcloud.com/maurfe/e-elgar-larghetto-from-serenate-for-strings-op20

thank you for listening

Maurizio

Vienna Ensemble Software 5.3 (OS X) build 13165 crash on OS X 10.9.2

thank you

maurizio

please, Viola's seven bar Fsharp

thanks

maurizio

http://www.dlib.indiana.edu/variations/scores/akx3424/large/index.html