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I've gone back to capitan but I still have odd issues . Sometimes I just cant get the plug in guis to appear at all . I have 2 instances that are identical with just one Kontakt 5.6 , on one instance I can clik on Kontakt and see it and not on the other

Also on an instance with lots of vi pro intruments when I clik on Mir pro in the fx insert nothing happens I cant access it. SAme thing pressing the shortcuts for instrument and mir pro , the view menu flickers but then nothing else happens ?

Strange thing: Wifi is off. Connection seems stable. I can play up to 8 VEPro instances live simultaneously in Logic as long as logic is not running. In the moment when I press Start or Rec everything is distorted immediately. Not one single note is possible. Becomes clear and clean again in the moment I press Stop. Changing the buffer in Logic from 64 to 512 doesn't help. Changing the VEPro Latency from 2 to 4 Buffers doesn't help

Hi did you find a solution I am having exactly the same problem. Live I am clean , press play in logic it crackles.

even with server on same machine.

The new update 6.0.15318 claims to have fixed Kontakt 5.6 gui but loading Cinematic Studio strings the interface is unreadable.

It was actually fine in the previous version of ve pro 6 . Any chance of fixing that please.

FIXED seems to have miraculously returned

Problem solved , it was my EWI outputting too much cc info at once . With just cc1 and cc2 for xfades all is fine.

I am having a big problem with Dimension strings . When using a perf-legato patch I get a popping sound when releasing a note . I can repeat this with very little loaded, even just 1 violin and one patch . It doesnt happen immediately but after about 30 secs of playing the sound . If I add the vel xf it happens immediately . I also notice that when I 1st load the sound and play the voices count is smooth and can jump up to 30 on fast passages but once the pops start it only goes up to 2 so something is not right.

Its not a cpu thing or ram as I have 96gb on a late 2013 cylinder mac . It happens in standalone , in ve pro 6 or in logic x . I have no other clicks or pops with any Kontakt or vienna sounds. I have ve pro and logic at 512 and have latest version of vi instrument pro and Dimension strings updates. I have tried different settings in general settings in vi inst such as preload but nothing changes. ( I also have all samples on seperate ssd drives. ) Any help much appreciated .

I can confirm this as well . The issue is with Kontakt 5.3.1 hosted in ve pro not logic . 5.3.0 fixes it but ... It crashes when auditioning and means we can't use new updated libraries , so a fix is needed. 

As there are so many of us with this issue and reverting to Kontakt 5.3.0 in ve pro solving the issue can we ask anyone from vsl monitoring this to try to solve this because some libraries are only working on 5.31 such as the new embertone violin 1,5 . And we can't just blame kontakt because 5.3.1 works fine in logic x but not in ve pro .

If anyone else has experienced issues with cpu crackles/ breakup in ve pro with sounds like Berlin WW , I have managed to solve it by reverting to Kontakt 5.3.0 . Thank the lord , I have been going mad for a few days with a new mac pro and ssds . Turns out Kontakt is the culprit.

Actually I haven't made complete switch yet and I'm using Logic 10.0 .7 but just for MIDI so it shouldn't make any difference Cubase or not. I have 32 GB of RAM loaded so far in vepro standalone in one computer at 256 buffer with about 20 kontakts and a few Vienna instruments .

I would be interested to know if there is an alternative to IAC bus that has less latency or jitter ( apart from Ve pros own midi input which is only for server use) 

Very good news , Mac osx 10.9.3 has fixed the crackling issues . I can now play berlin WW exp on Ve pro 5 standalone without issues ar 256 in a large template .

The reason I use standalone is so that I can route all the outputs via adat to another computer which runs protools . It is like having a virtual mixing desk . I can then just press record in protools and all my midi is stemmed in one pass ready for mixing . The beatuy is then I can mix a whole tv episode or movie in one protools session and the cues only have to be mixed once moreor less in terms of applying plug ins etc . ie The celeste always comes out of the same audio chanel rather than loading a seperate logic song for each cue and having to reapply settings. When you have to mix 30/40 cues per episdode evry two weeks it all helps . Mixing that anount of midi in logic can take forever.

I could work in server mode and reroute everything back to logic and then out again but its more messy ( especially the way logics mixer now works) . In terms of workflow I seemed to have found the culprit in Berlin winds exp so as long as I use them sparingly until Kontakt is fixed  all is well and I can have a massive template at 256 with no issues. Having said that , seems like a pc with cubase is the way to go .

+1 for cubase , I agree 100% . Apple have screwed up logic x , cant stand to even look at it after 30 years . Have started on cubase  which is not a massive learning curve and will switch despite being mid series. However that doesnt help my crackle issues because I am only using the daw for midi .

Thats why I bought the new mac pro 3.5ghz 6core with 64 gig of ram and 4 1gig ssds,

Should have just bought a cheap pc 

It seems its actually a Kontact 5.3 issue having spoken to Orchestral tools , because it is mainly the Berlin Exp winds that cause the crackles.( they claim v5.2 is ok ) no activiity in Kontakt Disk meter but the odd spike in cpu .

Having said that sounds like you are right about cubase and windows , goddamit . Wish I had known before buying the mac . 

Hi Cyril,

I am having similar issues ( see post yesterday about new mac pro) . Can you clarify for me

DisbaleBluetooth : Does this make a diference ? ( I like to use the apple bluetooth mouse for horizontal scrolling 

- set his preload buffer to maximum

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Is that in Vienna instruments ? What about Kontakt ?

 set its DAW with large buffers and it's I/O buffersize to maximum (1024)

For me  a 1024 buffer is too high latency wise 

I have just upgraded to the new mac pro using ve pro in standalone because I have a large template and work on many cues at once so its just easier to have all the sounds/samples set up in 1 standalone . I have completed 1 series working like this on my 2009 Imac and internal 7200 drive but had to set the standalone buffer size to 1024 which is not ideal . I bought the mac pro and installed 3 1gig ssd drives on a blackmagic multidock thinking I would then be able to drop the buffer size down to 256 at least . Sadly this is not the case . I am still getting major crackles at 256 and even some at 512 without that much going on . In fact just playing a fast run on a  berlinWW exp B clarinet(solo cl leg)  at 256 causes breakup. I tested this with logic , loading the same sound directly into logic and I am able to go down to 128 without issues. I have experimented with all the different combinations of thread allocation in ve pro and Kontakt and logic but it seems to make very little difference . ( for instance I have 12 cores , have tried 2 on logic , 10 on ve pro , and off on Kontact . or 2 logic 4 on kontakt and 6 on ve pro etc )

I guess the question I have is  whether the engine on the standalone not good enough to work this way and would I be better off with the server for working at lower latencies ?

I dont like using the server even decoupled because it makes life much easier just having 1 master standalone that can be updated easily just adding new midi tracks to the `Daw and for instance switching from logic to cubase as I am now ( cant stand logic X after 25 years of being a notator, logic person ) If I have to revert to an old cue from last year on logic 9 my setup will still work because all there is in logic is the midi.

I suppose there are other hosts like mainstage I could try but I really like the ve pro mixer and I am wedded to it now because this is the 3rd year of the series I am working on .

Forgot to mention that I use the IAC midi driver 

Any thoughts much appreciated

Charlie

Mac pro late 2013 osx 10.9.2 Rme  UFX fireface usb logic X 10.0.7 

It doesnt really have much to do with keyboard ability . It just sounds so much better playing a chord that is split into sections and when you have 5 cues to deliver a day you dont always have time to fiddle with editing . Its as simple as being able to press a bit harder with your left hand for example to emphasize or bring out a cello harmony within a chord or hold a chord with your left hand and play a 1st violin melody with your right but be able to have control over its volume and expression seperately as you play . Having said that my favoutite way of inputting strings is by ewi controller anyway which is monophonic but means you are inputting 2 ccs at once without having to use a mod wheel and without having to then edit the cc info because you get so much more of the expression and feel you want performing the part. The trouble with being lucky enough to use live strings is that the samples never come close so I should just accept that and stop wasting  time trying to  find the holy grail and  get sampled strings to sound real . I actually think developpers should stop releasing string libraries now . We have enough of the dam things already . Its like a tax on the composer $1000 a year each time a new one comes out ( and thats just strings, and like busses they all come at once ) and more importantly if they do get any closer then how are the musicians going to survive . With TV and film budgets reducing all the time, eventually we are not going to put any of the  money into the score by hiring real players so there will be no work for them . So keep making your demos and strings in particular sound fake so producers realize its worth giving the composer more money to spend on musicians. Sorry for digressing.

Or buy yourself a ROlli keyboard and have each finger send seperate midi info , ie midi channel and cc and aftertouch . I have ordered mine but delivery is not expected for a while. In the meantime I am hoping someone can develop a midi fx script for logic .re note expression : obviously useful but unless I have not got it , it seems it is just a post recording editing feature rather than a live input one. ie the point of auto divisi is to be able to avoid editing your parts and hear the beauty of the seperate sections in real time  on the fly which is more inspirational and quicker. 

Seperate tracks is a great way of working for the most realistic demos but I am also wanting a shortcut version for sketching and composing that allows you to hear a full section when writing say a string pad that isnt everyone playing the same notes. Lass is close but I prefer the DImension strings sound.

Hi again,

I have recreated the template in ve pro ( minus the reverb and eq settings ) and it really sounds great , so thank you very much for sharing . I have a question about how best to achieve divisi writing with it . Is there a way of enabling say 6 tracks violins a and b , violas and cellos and having logic automatically split out the midi chanels so that you can play a chord and hear it in divisi ie so it only sends one note of the chord to each instrument . Basically the same way Lass does it in autoarrange . I have managed to set this up with other libraries using Kontakt with a script but the only way I can see this working with Vsl Dimension is to load all the sections in one instance and use auto voice . I did come accross something called smart scoring http://dawcontrol.com/product/smartscoring/  but I could never get it to work .

I presume you are just playing in each part seperately which sounds great but is potentially a lot more work .

Hi Paul ,

I have also sent my screenshot to  

I am having the same issue with the latest version 13151. I am no longer able to connect to an instance on the same computer

Any luck with uploading the viframe ? I am doing an experiment with your template and one with Berlin strings and at the moment you are coming out on top but I am struggling to recreate the space you have which might be in the eqs or reverb settings . I notice you have a different setting for each section ?

Cool , thats great . Thats all I wanted to see . I also see you werent using MIR  or Mirx. for positioning  . Is that because you dont like the sound ? I like it for positioning but not reverb which sounds a bit harsh in my experience compared to others like Altiverb etc..The only thing I dont know now is whether its worth bothering with setting up Dimension strings with seperate players each postioned differently in mir . Obviously the workload in setting that up would be  intense so probably not . A final question I have is why are the legato patches playing polyphonically . ie to achieve a portamento at low velocity you have to be careful to not hold onto the 1st note too long otherwise you will here both . And a final request , any chance of uploading the vepro viframe . When I have the basses I will add them to the template and resend . Thanks again ps your demos and string arranging are fab . 

Thanks so much . Would you mind also adding a snapshot of your arrange page and mixer page in your daw  to see how this works ( or if you are on logic a template song even better . Hope I am not being greedy .

Hi Saxer, are you any closer to wanting to share this template? plus 1 for contacting you directly