Greetings. The VEP 7.2.1516 instances are still not showing. I have to type-in the IP address and instance name and it will appear. The various patches workarounds, updates, and "fixes" have still not resolved the issue. it was working great about a year ago and earlier. Basically, the versions before the iLok changeover were much better. 

MacPro 7,1 Ventura 13.2.1 (22D68), Pro Tools 2022.12, VEP 7.2.1516.

iMacPro 1,1 Mojave 10.14, VEP 7.2.1516.

Hello there. I'm using one Master (Mac Pro, 22.12.0.326) and one Slave VEP7 server (iMacPro). I've had those issues with 10G networks and cards. How I resolved my connection problems: Spoiler: I had more problems trying to bypass the router. If you have something like a simple Netgear GS105 (unmanaged gigabit switch) lying around, use that and connect your computers that way.

Set the network to (Auto, first for discovery): iPv4: DHCP. Speed: 1000baseT, Full Duplex. MTU: standard (1500). IPv6: Auto or Link Local Only. AVB mode: Yes. Try to use plain old ethernet with gigabit ethernet cables. Throttle any 5G or 10G ethernet gear down to 1 gigabit speeds.

I removed Little Snitch and I don't run any "Mac Optimizer" apps because they cause problems with Pro Tools and VSL. Turn off your VPN. (Mullvad VPN allows Local Network Sharing, so that one works fine for my setup, even with Pro Tools). If you have more than one ethernet port, dedicate the Intel Gigabit port (En0) to your VSL connections. 

In Pro Tools or Logic I use a DAW buffer of 128, a VSL instance buffer of 1, and I get great results and a playable system. Good luck and let me know how it goes.

FWIW, I connect to the slave VSL machine via Screen Sharing. This works from Mojave through Ventura.

Originally Posted by: SegalMusic

Bump ? Or bummer

 

I am fine-tuning a similar set-up.
Using Macpros, one master and two slaves.

I did a first config with a 'high speed' Router, and I am trying now without a router.

Has anyone set up one master and 2 slaves without a router, with a direct "LAN network".

Would this have any clear advantages?

 

Any tips appreciated. 

Proceed with caution: The Vienna Assistant installer for (VEP7 Server iLok) does not install VEP7 Server AAX v.7.1.1245 into the Avid Plugins folder, so you'd have to open an instance for every instrument you want to use.

We need to be able to reinstall our products via MyVSL/MyDownloads without having to rely on Vienna Assistant, because it's not installing AAX versions of VEP7 into Big Sur or Monterey systems. VA does not report when VSL apps are uninstalled using the dedicated Uninstallers for each app. VA does not always report/detect sample libraries already installed. 

I too am having this problem. I've just created a new orchestral template using either the "regular" VEP Server 7 plugin, as well a variation on VSL's AU3 Beta template. There are now dropouts and hanging notes (especially hanging sustain pedal occurences) that the latest version of Logic seems to have made worse. It seems that Logic isn't yet ready for VEP7 over a network. Maybe someday.

My workaround: I thought about moving everything VSL back to my DAW machine, but I ended up going back to my Pro Tools 2021.12 template which works shockingly well. I can always sync Logic to Pro Tools via the IAC bus, routing the audio through the UAD Apollo's virtual channels.

Greetings. You are probably reading this because you're attempting to connect to your gigabit ethernet-connected VSL slave machine, but the saved instance is not showing up when you try to connect to it. I am not using Sleep or Power Nap or any other "Energy Saving" schemes.

Sometimes a master VEP7 plugin can find the valid instance, sometimes it does not. This began on a version in early summer, 2021. Sometimes, the only solution is to completely remove the VSL software, but I don't think that reinstalling software everyday is a good long term solution.

This occurs with Pro Tools and Logic and it is not specific to a particular machine or OS.

Your setup might look something like this:

I have also noticed this problem.

All of the VSL plugins were working fine in Logic X under Monterey Beta. For now, if I need to use VSL plugins without VEP 7 in Logic, I'll boot to my Big Sur SSD until there's a fix.

Update: The VEP plugin in my template actually still works/connects to my VEP7 template. It's just the Cocoa GUI that's broken.

FWIW, all of the same plugins and their AAX GUI work fine in Pro Tools 2021.10.0 in Monterey 12.0.1. (iMac19,1)

Being a user of Avid, Slate Drums, and UVI, I will prefer using the existing "zero downtime" service rather than paying for two different "protection" systems. Even though that I'll end up throwing out 4 eLicensers.

Though I do wish that there was an option for machine activation (like Adobe, DxO, CCC, Waves, etc.) -maybe there are piracy issues with this type of licensing. IDK...

Originally Posted by: SamFromOttawa

I ended up messing around with the EQ for a whole day and i found one that works really well to give the Steinway some warmth and mellowness without losing too much presence, the high shelf eq i tried first cut too much presence for my liking and it made the piano sound a little muffled so after a lot of trial and error i found that a Peak eq cut at 9k is the magic number, then you can change the GAIN/Q controls to choose how mellow you want it to sound, at the moment i'm running -11.5 gain and around 0.70 to 0.90 Q, i'll try to attach screen shots of both my old and new Eq if i can figure out how to do it on this post so that people can try them. 

Hi there. I'm doing something similar, EQ-wise. The middle up to ~C5 is always pretty bonky and strident. I think we're basically employing a de-esser effect. The other places these pianos need help is ~250 Hz and 700 Hz. It's all pretty manageable, including deactivating the close "condenser" mic and pulling the most distant "room" mics way down, using only the UAD Console to insert a plate reverb to keep the processing load outside of Synchron, VEP7, and the DAW.  What I can't fix is a few unisons that were out of tune when they were sampled.

Do you want to build a PC? I've had a lot of success with my Gigabyte Z390 Designare with an i9 9900KS, 64GB RAM, RX580, SATA SSDs for the system and general media and a Samsung 970 PCIe for the sample libraries. It's also super-quiet and air-cooled.

If I were building a new system, I'd either wait for the soon-to-be-released new stuff.

If I didn't need Thunderbolt (and I won't buy another Thunderbolt interface) I'd consider the AMD stuff.

If I were building another Intel system, I'd wait for the Alder Lake stuff. My next build's CPU will have at least 12 cores.

Originally Posted by: Falcowe

Originally Posted by: murphy761

Mine is only creating a new blank VEP7 slot next to the pre-loaded/preserved orchestra template. It only works with Pro Tools and Logic X when running everything on a single machine.

Hey Murphy, I would suggest to also try manually reconnecting the instances rather than relying on the automatic method. However in your case I might have some guesses as to why this is happening. First I would guess that the name of your instance has changed. And I would guess that you changed the name of your instance in VEPro after closing your session. If you changed the name of the instance after you closed/saved your DAW session then when the session is opened again from its last saved state it tries to find the instance it was last connected to but can’t since the name was changed. So instead it makes a new instance with the name it last remembers on the same IP address that it did successfully connect to VEPro on. I had a similar issue when I discovered a space at the end of one of my instances, removed it and then tried to open a session only to have a new instance show up with what looked like the same name. I was confused until I figured out the names for VEPro must be exactly the same on the DAW and VEPro side of things otherwise they will not reconnect properly. This actually is the only logical explanation I can think of why an instance wouldn’t reconnect if saved properly. Hopefully this helps you figure what is going on when your issues.  

Hello and thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, manual reconnection does not work. The VEP7 insert in Pro Tools always creates a blank new instance. Reinstalling the VEP7 software on the slave MacOS computer did the trick until it "degraded" again. After a few times of this, I'm now running everything from my main "brute force" DAW machine (VEP7 Server, Logic X, Pro Tools 2021.7, UAD). Doing this also improved the System Delay as reported in Pro Tools. I think there may be an issue with the most recent VEP7 release. Strange stuff.

Mine is only creating a new blank VEP7 slot next to the pre-loaded/preserved orchestra template. It only works with Pro Tools and Logic X when running everything on a single machine.

Same issue over here with Windows 10. I'm going to revert back a version and see if it makes a difference.

Also, ViennaEnsemblePro-macOS-7.0.1056 is not connecting to a known and good VEP7 instance on an identical system over ethernet, whether connected directly or over an unmanaged switch.

I too have noticed this. It was probably a compromise in order to allow for the different room mic variations. Personally, I'd take the Steinway D-274 dry-sampled in mono with an SM57 if I could get the full-length samples of the D-274. But that's up there with the "...why not 48KHz?" question.

Hello Paul.

Until this gets solved with improved multi-threaded processing (user-selectable thread counts) please indicate a link for the most stable version so that many of us can roll back. My earliest one saved is 1.1.1522. Please advise.

Hello Blatboy,

Please share your network settings for your ethernet card such as negotiation speed, duplex, and MTU settings. Thanks in advance.

I'm assuming you're using the IAC bus to use MIDI over ethernet with less latency.

Is it a latency issue? I think there's been a locked-in buffer increase in the last update. –At least that's how it's playing out in Pro Tools 2019.12 and the UAD Apollo 8 via Thunderbolt on a top-spec 2018 Mac Mini. The slave computer is via Gb ethernet with an i9 9900KS with 64GB RAM and 2x PCIe Samsung 970's.

I rolled back to VEP v7.0.926 because it would not respect my latency buffer settings:

My Pro Tools buffer is set to 128 on the Mini, yielding 3.36 ms at 24/44.1 KHz is useful to me.

The latest update locks me in at 14.46 ms @ 24/44.1 KHz and 14.46 ms  @ 24/96 KHz, even if I go into each VSL app and reset the buffer to 128. I've also disabled all VEP7 plugins except for the instruments. I don't even use the built-in reverb in the VI's and the Syncron Player apps.

If this is your issue too, back up your templates, clear all of those preferences, uninstall all traces of VSL apps and try rolling back. It was a PITA, but now I can work as I did before.

Is it across most of the velocity layers and is constant on that note in the headphones without the room monitors on? Could it be that when that key was struck/sampled, that it made a few extra aliquot strings "zing" more than usual? There a a lot of long-strung A notes on that Blüthner under a lot of tension and even a ton of overstringing felt past the bridge and under the strings next to the pinblock can't stop everything...

And that's why I check every note before I take down or move any mics, because I don't want to have to resample the entire instrument.

Eh, forget about it. No problem. No worries. Thanks.

Hi Paul,

I was asking if you'd like a link to Pro Tools 2019.6/VEP7 template/session that I created. It's one VEP7 plugin  instance inside a Pro Tools session for a full orchestra plus inactive stems and master tracks. Originally for use with a UAD Apoll, generic MIDI i/o and. VSL Special Editions 1 & 3, Epic Orchestras 1 & 2, and the Synchron Yamaha and Steinway pianos.

I'm running VEP7 and Pro Tools on the same machine: i7 8700k at 4.5 GHz, 64 GB RAM, with an RX-580: OS and Apps on a PCIe SSD and the sample libraries on a second PCIe SSD.

I'd place it in MyVSL<Personal files -but that doesn't seem to accept a zip file to protect the contents.

But I do have a Dropbox link. That's the best I can do from my end.

LMK = Let Me Know. 

Hi Paul, if you're interested in a Pro Tools 2019.6/VEP 7 session to build a template, LMK.

Matt,

I was just checking the mail. Did you ever get the template? I have a new one for dealing with VEP7 on one powerful machine, everything running locally to brute-force past the 6101 errors in Pro Tools 2019.5.

LMK if you still want these. My apologies if you didn't get the file. It's a Dropbox issue. If you have another email, I can use Apple's Mail Drop feature to send you what you need.

Cheers,

jl

Thank you, Paul!

Just VEP and VEPS setups. I think you can convert these from the menu to VI Pro setups. You want?

I should add that I personally prefer my setups where I can use the Una Corda pedal to switch from, say, full strings to con sordino, or maybe the tremelo. I've spent a lot of time altering patches so that I can just play without reaching for a knob. I also use a Korg NanoKey in the C0 range so that I don't have keeyswitches interfering wih instrument ranges. Whatever's handy, right?

FWIW, I run VEP7 server, not the standalone -all in one huge machine with Pro Tools 2018.12.

If you don't have Pro Tools, can you import a .ptx session into Cubase? Because I could send you an orchestral template as well. Tell your Pro Tools pals!

LMK...