Hi Paul,

I tried reverting both mac and pc to previous version and I received a version mismatch error on the mac plugin.  It would not see the pc slaves either.  

I have not been able to revert back to the previous version without this issue. With this project I am ok as I am just figuring out what I loaded on the pc by quickly taking a screenshot as it crashes and reloading it on the mac in kontakt 5.

Still I am very concerned about other projects that I will be going back to in the near future.  

How do you recommend I troubleshoot or revert back properly?  Also where do I access the crash reports on windows 7 ultimate?

I installed the latest version and have been unable to revert back.  Logic X is my host so I use a mac host and pc slave instances.  I have a PC slave and older projects that load Kontakt 4 and when I click on the VEP instance on the PC the instances crash every time.  

What is the process to revert to the past version?

This seems like a pretty common setup to have VEP loading Kontakt on an slave machine but Kontakt is kludgy to setup Multiple outputs with Logic. VEP needs inputs for Kontakt and then Logic needs Auxes for VEP. It would be great if VSL could upload a tutorial on how to do this properly as it is definitely a little confusing.

Thanks

Just remember PT 11 is also Mountain Lion only and AAX only.

I am primarily a mac user. How do I provide you the crash dump you want via windows? Where do I find it?

I too am getting the same consistant crashes on the PC slave with this update. Looks like I will be reverting all machines back to the last release.

I'm finding that performance with Kontakt is much more efficient when connecting to a VEP PC slave rather than using Kontakt within my mac host logic.

So what I often do is load kontakt instruments in Logic and then save multis and then load them up on the PC via VEP when I start to have processor issues.

I use MacDrive to read the OS X filesystem and then I navigate to the network to the proper file directory where I saved the multi (which I set up as a network share) and then load the multi into a Windows instance of Kontakt.

The issue is that after doing this I get the "samples missing" dialogue in Kontakt which makes loading the multi a lot more time-consuming as I have to navigate to each directory for each program within the multi. It usually comes up like the following C:\Volumes\AV1\Kontakt Libraries\Abbey Road 60s Drummer Library\etc...etc

The issue is likely the C:\Volumes which I believe the Mac would not recognize.

I've been having trouble finding a software software similar to Default Folder on the mac for Windows so navigating through the samples missing in Windows file Explorer is pretty time-consuming and inconvenient (although I just found the software called buzz folders with a similar functionality, which I haven't tested yet).

Still, I would love it if Kontakt on Windows would just navigate to the file paths stored in the multi, so if anybody has a way of dealing with this please let me know as it would be much appreciated.

Thats too bad. I wondered that as well. I figured since there is a bundled VEP/MIR 24 discount maybe you would consider discounting MIR 24 for VEP owners. Maybe you guys will consider some other options in the future.

It would be nice if you guys would consider separating the licenses so you could use a special MIR license for using MIR as a VST/AU and another for using it within a VEP server. I could see that I would definitely want MIR on my main machine running as an insert plugin and on a separate machine in a VEP instance.

I am not sure of the other ways of going about this, but in my personal situation, I usually run an instance of VEP with a single instance of Kontakt and load up several instruments that relate to one another. A variety of keyboard instruments, Strings, Drums, Percussion, Synths, etc so Multis can be saved for each instance. So in this case, 1 instance of Kontakt can handle several midi channels and I run VEP in the host (Logic) on however many channels I need for that single instance.

I assume there are hosts that work differently, but this is how I use Logic in my situation.

If it is with software synths, I can run a rack of synths in VEP, 1 synth per channel. 16 Synths is quite a few and I am usually fine with 1 or 2 VEP instances in this situation. However certain synths only output on specific midi channels (usually 1 or between 1-4) and in that case I need to run more instances of VEP for synths as well. Largo is one that I think works this way and I always have to run it on the first midi channel in the VEP rack so if I want multiple instances of Largo I have to run multiple instances of VEP.

I usually run one VEP machine for Synths and another for samplers that stream from disk (Kontakt, BFD, Play etc).

I have mentioned this in person to Paul when I met him in Los Angeles and many others concur: VEP would benefit significantly from a tabbed interface for its various instances on each computer.

Especially when running a program like Kontakt where you essentially run an instance of Kontakt per VEP instance. Things get clumsy and cumbersome to manage very quickly with 8, 12, 16 instances of VEP on each machine... I really hope that this there is some push towards this sort of interface design as it would help tremendously.

It seems that the OSX version only supports Audio Units plugins and I think it would be really useful if one could load the VST versions in OSX so there was some sort of compatibility between server sessions. For instance I have a PC Server running Kontakt and if I wanted to a Mac Server to this session instead it would great if it was compatible. Now when I try to load the session it tells me that it cannot find Kontakt.vst the VST is installed on the Mac os. I think this cross platform compatibility (while I understand it would not be perfect) would still be very useful for certain plugins and hopefully this will be added to VEP at some point in the near future. If we run our servers as VST on the mac side I would think this would be more feasible.

Sorry about that. It's been a while since I did a Localhost connection with VEP and when I did a spotlight search for Vienna, the "server" version did not show up. Problem solved

That must be the issue. But I cannot find that option anymore in the Preferences:

http://screencast.com/t/3n7MVlOUwkD

Yes

From what I recall I have never had issues with this in the past but with the lastest VEP 5 update I cannot see the Client residing on the same machine as the Server (an 8 core Mac Pro. I can see my other 2 PC clients but not the version on my main Mac Pro.
I turned off the macs internal firewall, but this wouldn't seem to be an issue since it is not over LAN and is on the same machine. Please advise some troubleshooting tips. Thanks

Thanks, but the issue is that it crashes the VEP scan so every time I reload it trys to rescan and crashes. I guess I could move the plugin during the scan to my Components (Disabled) folder and then move it back after the scan, but not sure if VEP will try to rescan again at some point?

In Logic there is an AU manager and a way to run the application in 2 versions (32 and 64 bit). Each version has its own AU manager to manager which plugin is open. I have a few plugins that act a bit unstable in 64 bit mode in Logic and crash the initial scan in VEP. In Logic I just I disable the 64 bit versions and use the 32 bit versions.

Since both the 32 and 64 bit versions reside as a single AU Component in the Components folder how do I disable a 64 bit version but not a 32 bit version of the plugin?

Basically I only want to run a few plugins like Kontakt in VEP 64 on my mac since I am having some processor issues with Logic and I am hoping to resolve the issues with VEP since VEP handles core distribution better.

But what if I only want certain plugins to be active in Logic but not in VEP? Is there a way to control this because right now I am stuck.

Thanks,
DR

I requested support from the developer and here is his reply:

Vienna Ensemble Pro is compatible with VST2.4/32-bit MIDI plugins, and therefore it should work with the soundfont mode of Mildon Strummer 3.
To be able to use the MIDI-Out strumming mode of MS3 (the one that lets you strum other VSTi's/instruments) your host should be able to reroute MIDI output from the plugin to other plugins/tracks.
I'm not sure if VEP can do this since there is little information on their website about it.
I recommend asking in the developer's support forums to confirm/clarify this as they would be able to answer this better.

Please advise.

Thanks!

Can midi plugins like Mildon Strummer be used with VEP?
http://www.mildonstudios.com/product_ms3.html

I primarily use logic on the mac and I would love to connect to a windows instance of VEP and use something like this.

Thanks for your response. Would be great if we could eventually have midi controlled effects and a sidechain input. Regardless what we are getting sounds amazing!

So are you saying that the FX plugin connects to the VEP instrument plugin on the Server hosting the effects?

I use Logic as my host and mainly run PC Servers. I'm guessing in VEP 5 the new FX version will be similar to the instrument version of the plugin but will be instantiated as an effect instead of an instrument on the host DAW.

If that is the case, will the new FX rack version have a sidechain input so we can route the mac audio to the sidechain of PC FX's?

Also will there be an AU midi controlled effect version so we be able to run PC based midi controlled FX's like vocoders on our Macs?

Just wondered if this issue is getting addressed in VEP 5?

Well if it was a free update I would surely donate regardless because this is the single most useful utility in my rig. Its just amazing what VSL have accomplished. Bravo!

Have all of the Kontakt Issues been worked out with 4.2.3 and 5.0.1? Does Kontakt still have loading issues with VEP? Either blank instances or Could not Load messages? I have avoided using Kontakt on my slaves but would like to start doing so again. Is it the version of Kontakt or VEP that needs to be updated? Logic is my DAW. Please advise.

After reading the SOS press release I see that there are workshops being given in the UK. I was wondering if registered users could be granted access to a screencast of one of these since I am sure they would be of benefit to many users?

Very excited for VEP 5 and the Virtual FX rack!!! Amazing!