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BBO: Hercules, Izar, Jupiter, Kopernikus - SERIOUS BRASS
Last post Sun, Jun 14 2020 by PaoloT, 19 replies.
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Posted on Wed, Jun 03 2020 14:03
by daviddln
Joined on Tue, Feb 25 2014, Posts 188

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Only 65 euros and true legato, how is it possible?

Best, David

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Posted on Wed, Jun 03 2020 15:33
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12232

Hi David, 

You beat me to it, just wanted to post the announcement!

Yes, BBO: Brass is now a reality, in form of 4 new products: 

BBO: Hercules - Low Brass 
BBO: Izar - Low Brass Clusters
BBO: Jupiter - 6 Horns
BBO: Kopernikus - 4 Trumpets

BBO: Hercules features 4 bass trombones, a bass tuba and optional a contrabass tuba played as ensemble. As always with multiple mics + additional close mics. Up to five velocity layers, from emotional pianissimo up to brassy and striking fortississimo, and real legato recordings, glissandos, swells, flutter tonguing, trills and more! (intro-price: € 65, reg € 95)

BBO: Izar consists of the same ensemble as Hercules, but played as clusters. All the same articulations with the exception of legatos. (intro-price: € 55, reg € 85)

BBO: Jupiter - 6 horns, the perfect number of horns for our Synchron Stage Vienna, crispy, powerful, from pianissimo up to fortissimo. (intro-price: € 65, reg € 95)

“The horn is the soul of the orchestra” (Robert Schumann). These horns cover the range of emotions and give your orchestra the soul it needs.

Same number of velocity layers, similar articulations just like BBO: Hercules.

BBO: Kopernikus - 4 Bb Trompets complementing the other brass sections with its high-end, adding the typical cinematic trumpet sound to your music. (intro-price: € 65, reg € 95)

Spicy fanfares, swells, or high background chords - these trumpets can do all of it. Same count of velocity layers, similar articulations.

All these feature many mixer presets, and don’t forget to check out the “Processed” mixer presets for even more BRASS! (but don’t forget that there are 4 more velocity layers, just add some of these now for contrast ;) )

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Wed, Jun 03 2020 16:43
by LAJ
Joined on Sun, Dec 13 2009, Posts 519


Great Release! I will order these + the Imperial soon.  

Most desired future wish (probably for many people) ... to make it a perfect match with the dimension series ... 

- Wagner Tuba Ensemble

- Trombone Ensemble

Thanks.

Posted on Sat, Jun 06 2020 16:47
by Dewitt
Joined on Tue, Mar 04 2014, Posts 2

Just got those big four, A great bargain.

This team of four brass set is a real killer, amazing and a so realistic sound.

When playing the Jupiter Horns, one can almost hear the realism of the first note attack, almost never heard that precision in any other brand brass library.

I love this BBO collection one can afford purchasing regularly to build up a consistent complementary Library to the big Synchron one.

 Thumbs up again VSL !

Marcus
Posted on Sat, Jun 06 2020 17:15
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12232

Yay, Dewitt!

Thanks for taking the time to comment here!

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Jun 06 2020 21:11
by GilP
Joined on Thu, Aug 31 2017, Posts 69

Hello,

Are Sibelius soundset and possibly Dorico expression maps are expected for these 4 brass products?

Thanks!

Gil.

Posted on Sun, Jun 07 2020 03:07
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2664

Originally Posted by: GilP Go to Quoted Post

Hello,

Are Sibelius soundset and possibly Dorico expression maps are expected for these 4 brass products?

Thanks!

Gil.

+1 for Dorico

My birthday is on the 28th of June, those libraries are on my present list 

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
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Posted on Sun, Jun 07 2020 09:41
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3273

Hello Gil and Cyril!

Sibelius sound sets are on the to do list.
For Dorico we will focus on the SYNCHRON-ized Special Editions first, before we look into other libraries.

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, Jun 07 2020 10:11
by GilP
Joined on Thu, Aug 31 2017, Posts 69

Hello Andi,

Thank you for your quick answer (to two french Parisians ;-)), and for the Dorico expression maps news! I don't want to hijack this thread, but do you have an ETA for the EM (and is it a Dorico 3.5 one)?

Take care and best regards!

Gil.

Posted on Mon, Jun 08 2020 07:36
by andi
Joined on Wed, Feb 18 2004, Vienna, Posts 3273

Hello Gil!

Dorico Expression Maps for SYNCHRON-ized Special Editions will hopefully come this summer, but I can't say for sure. They will be for Dorico 3.5.

Best regards,
Andi

Andreas Olszewski
Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Tue, Jun 09 2020 00:15
by Cyril Blanc
Joined on Thu, Dec 19 2002, Paris France, Posts 2664

Hello Andi

Dorico 3,5 contains major updates of the Expression Maps.

It will be a pity not to profit of them

Thanks  in advance

Best

Cyril

MacPro 2010 12 core 2.93 ghz 64 GB Mac OS X 10.11 2722 Rocket Raid Sata III card with 8 x ssd
VSL lib on a Raid 0 of 4 x 256 GB ssd Sata III - Raid 0 of 4 x 64 GB for other libs
System on a 1 TB ssd
Audio Motu PCI system 84 ins / 64 outs
Kbd : P80 Yamaha, S88 and S25 Komplete Kontrol, DX7
I-Controls Pro, 2xMidi expression pedals
Synth : many....
---
Macbook pro Retina 2.7 ghz 16 GB
---
Mac Mini server 10.10 (server, Itunes, WEB, and Backup )
--
Logic X , Dorico, Band In A Box, ORB Composer
VSL : MIR PRO, Appassionata Strings I, Solo strings , Wind and Brass Complete, Dimension Brass, Big Band Orchestra series
Kontakt, Omnisphere, QLSO, QLSC, CS 80, Arturia V5, Maximo, Realivox Blue. CS 80 V3, The Orchestra 2, Art Conductor 5, Genesis Children Choir, Lunaris, Lacrimosa

Final Cut pro
Camera full HD
Posted on Sat, Jun 13 2020 07:45
by GP1
Joined on Mon, Feb 18 2019, Posts 23

Hi!  What is the difference, if any, between these brass recordings and the SE recordings?

Thank you!

GP1
Posted on Sat, Jun 13 2020 10:30
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12232

Hi GP1, 

Where to start? 

Our Big Bang Orchestra, like all SYNCHRON SERIES products, was recorded with multiple mics at our Synchron Stage Vienna. Our goal is to capture the rawness and full range of a full-on orchestra, now even expanding with sections (choirs and brass are available now). 
Via those multiple mics, you can sculpt your sound in many ways, like being in the control room of an up-to-date scoring stage. We're pouring in all our experience from our ongoing score-recordings, capturing the sound that is used in modern scoring productions.   

Our Vienna Instruments product line, incliuding the Special Editions, were recorded in a dry ambience (the Silent Stage) and are available as stereo files. In the case of our SYNCHRON-ized product line, those samples (originally recorded for the VI Player) are now available in the Synchron Player, re-edited and perfectly placed @Synchron Stage Vienna, with the help of impulse responses. 

Hope that helps!

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Jun 13 2020 15:52
by GP1
Joined on Mon, Feb 18 2019, Posts 23

Hi Paul, thank you so much!

 

So, they will mix well with the Syncrhonized SE that I already have?

GP1
Posted on Sat, Jun 13 2020 16:14
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 751

A problem I see with Dorico maps for the BBO series is that Dorico wouldn't have the matching instruments. Dorico is reasoning in terms of solo and section instruments, but has no mixed ensembles.

The only trick I would thing of is to use a generic Synth/Keyboard instrument, then manually associate one of the BBO libraries to it.

I don't know if this can be saved in a playback template, and if selecting a playback template would select the right expression map, or break the manually created routing.

Paolo

Posted on Sat, Jun 13 2020 16:32
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12232

Hi GP1, 

Originally Posted by: GP1 Go to Quoted Post

So, they will mix well with the Syncrhonized SE that I already have?

Correct. All Synchron Series products are designed to compliment each other!

Best, 
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sat, Jun 13 2020 23:02
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 751

Again on Dorico. Not only an instrument definition would be missing, but also the supporting playing techniques for some of the most 'adventurous' techniques in the BBO libraries. Take for example Black Eye, and the Echoes technique.

- How to notate it? (Probably, just a long note with a textual indication above).

- How to notate techniques with a more traditional background (like falls, runs, graced, delayed)?

- In which category to include these indications, without a supporting instrument definition? Keyboard?

Paolo

Posted on Sun, Jun 14 2020 10:18
by Paul
Joined on Sat, Aug 03 2002, Vienna, Posts 12232

Hi Paolo, 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Maybe our notation forum is the better place to discuss such DAW-specific questions?

Best,
Paul

Paul Kopf
Product Manager - Vienna Symphonic Library
Posted on Sun, Jun 14 2020 12:37
by PaoloT
Joined on Tue, Dec 27 2016, Posts 751

Originally Posted by: Paul Go to Quoted Post

Maybe our notation forum is the better place to discuss such DAW-specific questions?

Paul, yes, sorry, wrong thread.

Paolo

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